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May 13, 2008 Est 1999 Scotland's award-winning independent newspaper
Hillary's last stand?
He's won every primary in states neighbouring his own. She's hoping his 'pastor disaster' will see the tide finally turn. All eyes are on Indiana and North Carolina
By Andrew Purcell

IT HAS been another tough week for Barack Obama, ending a cruel month that he must be glad to see the back of. This Tuesday's primaries in Indiana and North Carolina offer an immediate opportunity to move on from his campaign's first real crisis. His popular support has eroded and his energy is waning, but anything other than a shock double loss will speed his long, painful, limp to the finish line.

April put paid to the inevitability argument once and for all. It had already served Hillary Clinton poorly, creating a backlash against her ties to the party establishment. From Iowa to Virginia, Democrats bridled at the suggestion that she was the only candidate with the experience or the connections to win the nomination. Unfortunately for Obama, during his string of victories in February he adopted the same air of certainty, so easily taken for arrogance.

He has struggled desperately ever since, against a relentless, revitalised Clinton. Obama can blame the hard questions that come with being a front-runner, the media's interest in prolonging the race, the focus on "pastor disaster" Jeremiah Wright, or simply a sequence of states where the demographics favoured his opponent. But the timing is telling - he stumbled the moment his campaign said it was impossible for Clinton to catch him.

Even Clinton's most ardent fans recognise that she has no chance of overturning Obama's lead in pledged delegates. They know that claiming to have won more votes overall will probably require some creative accountancy with the Florida and Michigan primary results.

But until Obama settles it with a decisive victory, they believe that the only jury that counts is still out. There are more than enough uncommitted superdelegates to push either candidate across the tape.

Indiana and North Carolina matter most as a fresh set of data to spin, to bolster the electability argument that is Clinton's only hope. Although neither are swing states, they offer a series of clues to how the candidates fare with key voting blocs, chief among them, once again, white men without a college degree. They will also provide the first conclusive evidence of how badly the re-emergence of Reverend Wright has damaged Obama, both in the short term and as a potential general election candidate.

It has long been assumed that Obama will sweep North Carolina. More than a third of the primary electorate is African-American. If he again wins an astounding 90% of the black vote, as he has done fairly consistently in recent primaries, Clinton will need three-quarters of the state's white voters to beat him. Incomes are higher and university education more widespread than in Pennsylvania, another factor that favours Obama.

His lead has narrowed though, from an impregnable position to slim single digits in the space of a fortnight. Governor Mike Easley's endorsement should help Clinton keep the margin tight, thanks to his standing with blue collar workers and gun owners. Easley is the two term Democrat leader of a staunchly Republican state. He is Catholic, socially conservative, a keen hunter and a strong advocate of the Second Amendment right to bear arms. Although he has not said so explicitly, his aides believe Clinton can win.

North Carolina is the kind of upset victory that Clinton needs, to prove she can shatter Obama's coalition whilst maintaining a lock on her own base. A win in Indiana, where she leads most recent polls, would mean less, even if it is as convincing as Pennsylvania. The maths is dull from repetition, but at this point, a draw can only help Obama.

Indiana is a Republican banker, red since Richard Nixon. The last Democrat to take its electoral college votes was Lyndon B Johnson in 1964. Its people, who call themselves Hoosiers, tend to care about wedge issues such as gay marriage, abortion and gun control. They favour small government and low taxes, cheer for college basketball teams and watch Nascar races at the weekend.

The few Democrats that have succeeded here are from the fiscally conservative wing of the party. Senator Evan Bayh is one of Clinton's most loyal lieutenants. Congressman Baron Hill, from the southern district that includes Clarksville and Bloomington, endorsed Obama last week.

As a rust belt state next door to Ohio, historically inhospitable to liberals, Indiana is a good fit for Clinton, whose stump speech about "jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs" resonates in steel industry towns that have suffered through wave upon wave of redundancies. But it is also a neighbour to Illinois, meaning that voters in the northwest get Chicago television. Obama has yet to lose a state that borders his home territory and has already won Iowa, Missouri and Wisconsin.

Obama usually does well in Republican states where the Democratic party apparatus is weak, thanks to his young, well-organised volunteer operation. He also attracts more independent voters than Clinton, so Indiana's open primary is good news. Until Reverend Wright stepped back into the spotlight, the state looked like a toss-up.

Wright's defiant performance at the National Press Club threw a hand grenade into Obama's lap. He began by scolding everyone who saw two short video clips and rushed to judgement, but soon revealed a man every bit as angry and as self-regarding as his YouTube caricature.

"I do what pastors do, he does what politicians do," was Wright's supreme understatement, as he ran down a list of radical viewpoints, alternating paranoid delusion with unpalatable truths that candidates must avoid like quicksand. He observed that American foreign policy invites terrorist attack, compared US marines to the Roman soldiers who crucified Jesus and repeated his accusation that the HIV virus was created to kill black Americans. "Our government is capable of anything," he concluded.

Obama inexplicably took a day to respond. When he did, the nuances of his celebrated speech on race were conspicuously absent. "I'm outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday," he said. "They offend me, they rightfully offend all Americans, and they should be denounced." Clinton has so far refrained from putting the boot in. An advert calling Wright and Obama "too extreme for North Carolina" was paid for by local Republicans.

When Obama ended his boycott of Fox News, Clinton followed suit. Her first question, served with a smile by right-wing presenter Bill O'Reilly, was: "Can you believe this Reverend Wright guy?"

Democrats don't often campaign in Indiana, because the nomination is wrapped up by May and the general election result is a foregone conclusion. This year, at rallies in Marion, Terre Haute, Gary and Columbus the candidates have spelled out their plans to revive manufacturing industry. They have traded sporting metaphors and everyman anecdotes. Both use a John Mellencamp anthem, Our Country, as exit music.

Obama played pick-up basketball for the cameras. Clinton commuted to work with a panel beater in his white Ford truck. The South Bend Tribune reported that "for half a tank of regular unleaded gasoline, they paid $63.67 £32.27."

Petrol taxes have emerged as one of the few areas of policy that Clinton and Obama flatly disagree about. Both John McCain and Clinton have proposed a "gas tax holiday" for the summer, during which the government levy of 18.4 cents per gallon would be suspended. The only significant difference between their plans is that Clinton would impose a windfall profits tax on oil companies to pay for it.

Obama presents this as political pandering. In North Carolina he called it a false economy that would save the average family $28 while putting public sector construction jobs in jeopardy. "This is the problem with Washington," he said. "Oil companies like Shell and BP just reported record profits for the quarter. And we're arguing over a gimmick that would save you half a tank of gas over the course of the entire summer so that everyone in Washington can pat themselves on the back and say that they did something."

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman described it as money laundering: "We borrow money from China and ship it to Saudi Arabia and take a little cut for ourselves as it goes through our gas tanks." Huffington Post writer Sam Stein tried to assess independent support for the plan, but couldn't find a single economist or energy expert who would back it.

Robert Shapiro, a former undersecretary of commerce in Bill Clinton's administration, called it "trivial or worse - by reducing the price of driving it encourages more of it, thereby increasing demand for gasoline, which inevitably pushes the price back up - the consumer gains nothing, and the oil companies and OPEC collect the extra bucks instead of the government."

None of which has deterred Clinton. "My opponent, Senator Obama, opposes giving consumers a break," she told a town hall meeting in Indiana. "I understand the American people need some relief." Her calculation, that voters choose self-interest over the greater good, has been proved right before.

If Clinton can somehow win both contests on Tuesday and ride that momentum into West Virginia, Kentucky and Oregon, it will support her claim that Obama is too liberal to defeat McCain. She has already compared him to Al Gore and John Kerry, suggesting that they lost because "large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly respect their ways of life."

From there, it is a short leap to the definitive Democrat loser of the modern era, Senator George McGovern. Writing in the New Republic, John Judis argued that an examination of Obama's support in Pennsylvania revealed "the outlines of the old McGovern coalition that haunted the Democrats during the 70s and 80s." It is the perfect spectre to scare waverers.

Clinton's problem is that during the first sustained rough patch of Obama's campaign, the flow of superdelegates is still in his direction, not hers. He has halved her lead in the past two months, to around 20. Both campaigns make a fuss each time they secure a previously uncommitted super, but the big defections are always from Clinton to Obama.

This week, just when he needed it most, two more of Clinton's prominent supporters switched sides. On Thursday, Joe Andrew, who led the Democratic National Committee during Bill Clinton's presidency, announced that he was transferring his allegiance to Obama.

At a press conference in his home town of Indianapolis, he told reporters "this has got to come to an end a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists John McCain." The next day Paul Kirk, another former DNC chairman, followed his example. Unless Clinton can reverse the tide, she will be swept away in June.

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Posted by: jacksmith on 12:50am Sun 4 May 08
MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...
Posted by: jacksmith on 12:51am Sun 4 May 08
DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)
Posted by: jack attack, reality, usa on 2:17am Sun 4 May 08
jack, jack, you're smoking crack, wait for your senses to come on back

I don't know what is the funniest pathetic thing you said - was it saying Hillary "I voted for the war in Iraq" and is now saying she will obliterate Iran is best qualified to extricate us from that mess, or is it the equally hilarious canard of her 35 years experience, when you mean 35 years of being married to Bill Clinton. The rest of your idiocy (to coin a term) is beneath comment
Posted by: Peg on 3:44am Sun 4 May 08
JACKSMITH!!! YOU'RE HERE ON THIS BLOG, CUTTING AND PASTING YOUR "YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT" SPEECH. WOW! YOU'RE EVERWHERE POSTING THAT NONSENSE. I'M AMAZED. GET A LIFE, WILL YOU PLEASE?
Posted by: Thetruth, mn on 4:01am Sun 4 May 08
I do not expect everybody to be smart but, guys let be serious here.
Hilary opted for a "holiday" gaz tax cut which will lead to job cuts, environmental problems etc. Where is the experience here?
More over, I confess that I'm myself a little racist. But, too much is at stake here. Let's be serious and not racist for once and get something good done. Otherwise wrong choices like Bush can be made again.
If we think without passion, Obama is the best, not perfect but best, choice
Posted by: IIIRingIII, Spokane Wa on 7:33am Sun 4 May 08
No offense to Obama supporters but your decision sucks. I believe if Hilary Clinton is elected, America will basically be getting a 2 in one package because we will have bill clinton back in the white house. Bill was an incredible president (though he did get into some social disasters) and besides America is absolutely by no means ready for a black president. First of all I hear he hates white people..probobly just a rumor but I dont want America in the hands of the possible prejeduce. Second, there are too many racists still in America..Obama I bet will end up shot before half of his term is over. Though I think this is a better vote than Mccain..(god forbid another republican president) I think you should really take into concideration the major cons that may come with Obama.
Posted by: geoff, charlotte, nc on 9:48am Sun 4 May 08
Wow, IIIRingIII, keep on posting. I couldn't have possibly made a more eloquent argument that Obama should be our President. Long live the typical, Clinton demographic.
Posted by: Im no really here on 12:06pm Sun 4 May 08
Jacksmith
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
I think you'll find that Bill financed that "greatest expansion and prosperity" by plundering the state pension funds, which are now in crisis. Well done Bill. Can I also ask what Hillary's 35-years of experience was actually in?

Are people actually voting for Hillary because they want Bill back?? Let Monica give them all a cigar.
Posted by: Brian on 5:24pm Sun 4 May 08
If, as a renowned "political analyst" has described him, Rev. Wright is the "gift that keeps on coming," what will he say at his Trinity retirement party on May 31, a few days before the last Democratic primaries? That's the same day the Democratic National Committee will decide what it will do about the 2.3 million voters in Michigan and Florida.

If Clinton wins Indiana (a state that has not voted Democratic since LBJ's victory in 1964)on Tuesday, and loses North Carolina by a mere couple of points (or even wins)it will begin to look as if Obama has lost most of his momentum. The undeclared super delegates will focus on who is the more electable, choose Clinton, and that will lead to many blacks sitting out the November election. Hopefully, some of them will not show their anger, at being disappointed their candidate didn't get the party's nod, by emulating what happened in South L.A. and other places. That will really set back the opportunity anothe black person will have in the future to run for, and be elected, president.
Posted by: Angelenos, California on 11:52pm Sun 4 May 08
The basic problem with Hillary is her absolute inability to beat McCain even if she would manage to con the nomination. The

case is that not only herself, but some brain-washed (like JackSmith above) voters either are confusing being a fighter and

being a b..ch. Being a fighter means to be ready to sacrifice your dearest personal things like your life or health to win, and

Hillary is ready to sacrifice just her voters' money and her party's success, nothing personal. Being a b..ch means to say

anything to defeat somebody.
Therefore, b..ches can only deal with nice guys like Obama who tries to show "some constraints" when competing with his

party fellow. But they, b..ches, have no chance against a real fighter, with no ever constraints, like the older outgoing soldier

McCain who made real personal sacrifices in Vietnam war. Although he was not under sniper fire in Bosnia, but survived 5

years in Vietnam POW camps, let alone being under actual fire over there.

Just recall him joking, with no actual reason, but for fun: Why is Chelsea so ugly? If real competition starts, all Clintons' dirty

laundry of 90s, let alone recent developments, would be brought to the daylight and put on Hillary, and she would have to go

into such a defensive position, unless somewhere deeper, that she would not get a chance to even show her ability, much less

to have it, for real fighting. Her only experience is just a huge baggage of scandals brought from the past.
Republicans dream to have her as an opponent in November so that even Mr. Rove is now explaining to Democratic

superdelegates on 10 reasons why they should prefer her to Obama. Therefore, voting for Hillary now is like voting for McCain,

so think again who you would wish for President.

Here is a brief list of those people who are now actively supporting Hillary Clinton’s candidacy: Pat Buchanan, a charming man

slightly to the right of Genghis Khan; Rush Limbaugh, the most voluble and incendiary of right-wing talk-show hosts; Richard

Mellon Scaife, the media mogul who financed the virulently antiClinton crusades of the 1990s; and, if you read between the

lines, even Karl Rove, the “architect” of the past decade or so of Republican dominance in electoral politics.

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Posted by: Angelenos, California on 12:03am Mon 5 May 08
The basic problem with Hillary is her absolute inability to beat McCain even if she would manage to con the nomination. The case is that not only herself, but some brain-washed (like JackSmith above) voters either are confusing being a fighter and being a b..ch.
Being a fighter means to be ready to sacrifice your dearest personal things like your life or health to win, and Hillary is ready to sacrifice just her voters' money and her party's success, nothing personal. Being a b..ch means to say anything to defeat somebody.
Therefore, b..ches can only deal with nice guys like Obama who tries to show "some constraints" when competing with his party fellow. But they, b..ches, have no chance against a real fighter, with no ever constraints, like the older outgoing soldier McCain who made real personal sacrifices in Vietnam war. Although he was not under sniper fire in Bosnia, but survived 5 years in Vietnam POW camps, let alone being under actual fire over there.
Just recall him joking, with no actual reason, but for fun: Why is Chelsea so ugly? If real competition starts, all Clintons' dirty laundry of 90s, let alone recent developments (like the pending lawsuit in Los Angeles), would be brought to the daylight and put on Hillary, and she would have to go into such a defensive position, unless somewhere deeper, that she would not get any chance to even show her ability, much less to have it, for real fighting. Her only real experience is just a huge baggage of scandals brought from the past.
Republicans dream to have her as an opponent in November so that even Mr. Rove is now explaining to Democratic superdelegates on 10 reasons why they should prefer her to Obama. Therefore, voting for Hillary now is like voting for McCain, so think again who you would wish for President.

Here is a brief list of those people who are now actively supporting Hillary Clinton’s candidacy: Pat Buchanan, a charming man slightly to the right of Genghis Khan; Rush Limbaugh, the most voluble and incendiary of right-wing talk-show hosts; Richard Mellon Scaife, the media mogul who financed the virulently antiClinton crusades of the 1990s; and, if you read between the lines, even Karl Rove, the “architect” of the past decade or so of Republican dominance in electoral politics.

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Posted by: Angelenos, California on 12:03am Mon 5 May 08
The basic problem with Hillary is her absolute inability to beat McCain even if she would manage to con the nomination. The case is that not only herself, but some brain-washed (like JackSmith above) voters either are confusing being a fighter and being a b..ch.
Being a fighter means to be ready to sacrifice your dearest personal things like your life or health to win, and Hillary is ready to sacrifice just her voters' money and her party's success, nothing personal. Being a b..ch means to say anything to defeat somebody.
Therefore, b..ches can only deal with nice guys like Obama who tries to show "some constraints" when competing with his party fellow. But they, b..ches, have no chance against a real fighter, with no ever constraints, like the older outgoing soldier McCain who made real personal sacrifices in Vietnam war. Although he was not under sniper fire in Bosnia, but survived 5 years in Vietnam POW camps, let alone being under actual fire over there.
Just recall him joking, with no actual reason, but for fun: Why is Chelsea so ugly? If real competition starts, all Clintons' dirty laundry of 90s, let alone recent developments (like the pending lawsuit in Los Angeles), would be brought to the daylight and put on Hillary, and she would have to go into such a defensive position, unless somewhere deeper, that she would not get any chance to even show her ability, much less to have it, for real fighting. Her only real experience is just a huge baggage of scandals brought from the past.
Republicans dream to have her as an opponent in November so that even Mr. Rove is now explaining to Democratic superdelegates on 10 reasons why they should prefer her to Obama. Therefore, voting for Hillary now is like voting for McCain, so think again who you would wish for President.

Here is a brief list of those people who are now actively supporting Hillary Clinton’s candidacy: Pat Buchanan, a charming man slightly to the right of Genghis Khan; Rush Limbaugh, the most voluble and incendiary of right-wing talk-show hosts; Richard Mellon Scaife, the media mogul who financed the virulently antiClinton crusades of the 1990s; and, if you read between the lines, even Karl Rove, the “architect” of the past decade or so of Republican dominance in electoral politics.

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Posted by: Lucia John, Hillsborough NC on 1:15am Mon 5 May 08
I have closely observed the Clinton Administration, Bill did a remarkable job by year ending with the budget in Surplus. I believe Hilary was behind the scenes, giving her support to Bill, which made his presedency a success. Bill it is your turn to support Hilary by taking on the role which she had and give her your support. Together you can do great things. I believe with all my heart this years election will go down in history it will be a race of all races, the world is watching make your mark Hilary.

Bill I still need housing ASAP Lucia John from Hillsborough NC
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Posted by: Ron, Texas on 1:44am Mon 5 May 08
It is time to see through Obama's transparency, he lies, and lies and then lies, again. No one ever calls him on it, like the gas tax, he voted for in the Senate THREE times! Now he is trying to blame Hillary for something McCain started HRC, was smart though, she said sure a gas tax, but TAX the OPEC Companies with record profits! She is the only one with real solutions to real problems, she is tough, she will fight when Obama will flounder over and over like he has repeatedly, he has no backbone, only stolen words! He has taken the words of Duval Patrick, Alan Keyes, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr, and JFK, and Roosevelt and tried to make people think these are his words and his ideas, he is an empty suit! WE need someone we know will beat McCain that is Hillary Rodham Clinton, why do you think the Republicans have played us all along saying vote Obama! THEY KNOW they don't want to go against her in the General Election!
Posted by: Moira, USA on 4:56am Mon 5 May 08
As I will vote in this Election and have reasearched all 3 Candidates Platformes.
there is nothing different about any of them.
they are all idiots!
Posted by: Tracy, Atlanta on 8:31am Mon 5 May 08
This entire situation is a nightmare.Obama has clearly won the nod, but Hilary is the one who's got a shot at beating McCain. There is no way Obama can beat McCain, so we'll be throwing up a guy who's destined to lose.

Obama can't win Florida, which Hilary can. Obama also can't win Ohio, which Hilary might be able to. Given recent history, if a Democrat can't win those two vital swing states, they lose.
Posted by: adawg, watermelon city on 3:06pm Wed 7 May 08
hiii
Posted by: mvy on 11:58pm Wed 7 May 08
The real issue is not how well Clinton, Obama, or McCain might do in the closely divided battleground states, but that we shouldn’t have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes—that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

The major shortcoming of the current system of electing the President is that presidential candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or worry about the voter concerns in states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. The reason for this is the winner-take-all rule which awards all of a state’s electoral votes to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state. Because of this rule, candidates concentrate their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. Two-thirds of the visits and money are focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money goes to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people are merely spectators to the presidential election.

Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.

The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 17 legislative chambers (one house in Colorado, Arkansas, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and two houses in Maryland, Illinois, Hawaii, California, and Vermont). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring the law into effect.

See http://www.NationalP


opularVote.com

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