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Pressure piles on Alexander
Anti-Labour criticisms in new party spin-doctor’s blog

SCOTTISH LABOUR'S new spin-doctor made a series of damning criticisms of his colleagues weeks before he accepted the job as the party's head of communications. Gavin Yates used his blog to describe Wendy Alexander as "abrasive", labelled shadow health minister Andy Kerr as "simply uninspiring", and blasted Jack McConnell for being a "lame duck leader" when in office.

He also said the fledgling SNP government had a "long and impressive" list of achievements, while describing first minister Alex Salmond as "a great example of a politician on top of his game".

The online blasts are the latest PR disaster for Alexander who, as Labour's newly appointed Holyrood leader, has watched two spin-doctors quit in as many months.

The first press aide, Brian Lironi, quit his post in September, days after she had been formally installed as leader.

Then her media chief, Matthew Marr, resigned in disgrace eight days ago after shouting the c-word at Salmond during an awards ceremony.

Alexander is set for further embarrassment after it emerged that Yates - the Labour group's new head of communications - attacked his future bosses weeks before accepting the new job.

His comments featured on his WordPress-hosted blog, GYmedia. A message on the blog page now states: "The authors have deleted this blog. The content is no longer available."

But the Sunday Herald has uncovered a number of Yates's postings, many of which portray the Labour leadership in a negative light.

On Alexander's speech to the UK Labour conference in September, one of his internet postings states: "New Labour leader Wendy Alexander was rather less positive, using her conference speech to apologise' for losing the last election in Scotland. Rather odd: and certainly doesn't bode well for her renewal agenda.

"The news yesterday that her spinner-in-chief Lironi had resigned after a month, to be replaced by a man who ripped up his party card a few years ago, does not augur a speedy return to government either."

The same entry, which was made days after Alexander became leader, saw him aim a jibe in her direction: "As Gordon Brown considers taking the biggest political risk of his life, the Scottish government can go along unhindered by a competent opposition."

In a commentary on Scottish Labour in July, when Jack McConnell was on the verge of quitting, he blogged: "Next, what happens to the Scottish Labour Party? Wendy Alexander, a former minister who fell from favour with the so-called Labour West-Coast Mafia' is in pole position but her abrasive style might not prove popular with everyone. Also, she is seen very much as a Brown acolyte and that won't go down well with MSPs that want a separate Scottish Labour identity from Westminster."

On the possibility of East Kilbride MSP Andy Kerr replacing McConnell, he said: "The other front runner looks to be former health minister Andy Kerr. He's seen by some as effective but by many others as simply uninspiring."

On current deputy Labour leader, Cathy Jamieson, he said she was "left looking impotent" when dealing with the subject of airguns as a minister.

Yates, 39, also had a dig at the prime minister, of whom he said in August: "Under Gordon Brown we have the greatest disparity between the richest in our society and the poorest."

In September, he turned his fire on former Labour first minister Henry McLeish, ironically for the sin of criticising his party. "His last book sold less than he - and his publishers - had hoped. And I don't think that this barrage of spinning will help him shift many more units," he wrote.

Another Labour MSP to incur Yates's wrath was Duncan McNeil, who has taken a tough stance on drug addicts having children. The blog entry stated: "More needs to be done to ensure that there are routes out of prostitution and drug abuse. Not in the way that Labour MSP Duncan McNeil suggested with his Take the kids off them and feed em contraceptives in their methadone', but in the way that Sacro have been working in Edinburgh."

By contrast, Labour's new spin chief made a number of positive comments on Salmond and the SNP government.

On the first minister's handling of the "national conversation" on independence, which Labour criticised, Yates said: "His pincer movement with the white paper yesterday is a great example of a politician on top of his game."

Responding to commentator Neal Ascherson's upbeat remarks on the Nationalist administration, Yates wrote in August: "There is already a long and impressive list of SNP achievements in its first days as Neal sets out."

"Meanwhile, Labour find themselves still stuck in a post-electoral malaise with a lame-duck leader."

He added: "The SNP go from strength to strength as Scots witness a post-election honeymoon. However, it might be more to do with Labour's inability to land a blow rather than the particular merits of the new administration."

One senior Labour insider said Yates's blog came at a bad time for Alexander: "You would think the party would make checks on the people they hire. Wendy is struggling, and the last thing we need is another piece of nonsense like this."

Another party source said: "She's not had a great start. This is not helpful."

Yates's non-political comments are bizarre rather than controversial, such as his musings on the postal service: "This might sound like hyperbole but Royal Mail should be viciously broken into tiny pieces and fed to its chief executive anally."

On Royal Mail informing him of the benefits of sending items second-class, he said: "So that's the official line from Royal Mail - to stop busting your budget publishers should offer a second-class service. Talk about being buggered."

He also claimed the London Olympics would not benefit ordinary Britons, even mocking some of the events: "The 50km walk consists of people walking along as if they have a bit of super-strength chewing gum shoved up their bum and they have to get all the flavour out before they finish."

Yates used to work as a communications manager at the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations. He is set to start the £40,000-50,000 post in December.

Labour's new spin chief said yesterday: "My comments have been taken out of context. I wrote them as a journalist in July and they do not reflect my own views. I think Wendy Alexander is a winner as is Andy Kerr."

A Scottish Labour spokeswoman declined to comment.

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Posted by: Doonhamer, Dumfries on 10:31pm Sat 24 Nov 07
You couldn't make this stuff up. Imagine trying to excuse your comments by claiming that they were taken out of context AS they were written as a journalist and do not reflect the opinion of the writer even though it is on his own blog which is under the total control of the writer.

What a deluded individual, a perfect choice for a Labour spin doctor. The SNP spin doctors can go on holiday with the opposition doing all their work for them.

I can just see the next meeting of Cabinet.

Salmond: How long do you want this one to last?
Sturgeon: Let's make him last a little longer than the last one. We do not want to create any sympathy for Wendy.
McAllister: I could call my mates in the polis to make sure that they hold back any leaked information until we give the go ahead.
Salmond: All right, that's sounds like a plan. Just make sure that we have more candidates available when needed. If we run low, look for additional help at Glasgow Council. They always have a few wasters around looking to work for Wendy.



Posted by: Saul Tyre, Germany on 10:33pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Labour's new spin chief said yesterday: "My comments have been taken out of context. I wrote them as a journalist in July and they do not reflect my own views ."

You must have been a terrific journalist. What a loss to the profession.
Posted by: Doonhamer, Dumfries on 10:45pm Sat 24 Nov 07
In the spirit of generosity, he could have been "tired and emotional" when he wrote all his blog comments. After all that is the required status for most Scottish journalists.
Posted by: Guru Gordon, US on 10:57pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Did he work for the Scotsman?
Posted by: reporter, in a country run by the snp on 11:03pm Sat 24 Nov 07
gets better all the time, with his style he should insult everyone the first week. As the herald diary reorts, they stopped giving her staff passes, they sign the visitors book.

Anyway he is a spin doctor from the hangers on sector not a journalist who writes for papers or magazines. he is a scuba diver he is going to need to be, Labour sunk some time ago.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 11:06pm Sat 24 Nov 07
So how long is this one going to last? Has he started yet? lol
Posted by: I'm no really here on 11:08pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Well if he can write that and then still get the job, shows that he is good at spin.

Is there a book open on how long he will last?
Posted by: Scottish Politics, Scotland on 11:16pm Sat 24 Nov 07
So Kezia thingy and the other guy who were seconded to Wendy only lasted a week? That has to be a record even for Wendy!

The very fact that the new spin doctor has already become the story says a lot about the malaise afflicting the Labour Party, both in Scotland and UK-wide.

'One senior Labour insider said Yates's blog came at a bad time for Alexander: "You would think the party would make checks on the people they hire. Wendy is struggling, and the last thing we need is another piece of nonsense like this."'

Sounds like the clamouring for leadership change is underway.
Posted by: Jimbo on 11:29pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Here are some of the nice things Mr. Yates has to say about the SNP and the not so nice things about Wendy & Co.

http://ourkingdom.op
endemocracy.net/?s=%
22gavin+yates%22
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 11:30pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Wendy Alexander is a Glaswegian, so she must be thick , All Glaswegians are thick. Its in the d.n.a.
Posted by: Breezy, Argyll on 11:51pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Well Well, the Labour Party at last hire somebody who tells the truth, who'd have believed it !
Posted by: Mike, Edinburgh on 12:05am Sun 25 Nov 07
Visited Yates Blog and was pleasantly surprised that not one of the bloggers is located in Scotland. Good to see the Geat Man Alex getting such positive feedback from another loudmouthed Numptie from down south. Wendy has got to go along with her Masters down south. Surely the New Labour Party will have to realise you cant recycle the same old crap over and over, without starting to sound like an old 78 with a grand canyon sized scratch on it.
Posted by: Plobotsky on 1:03am Sun 25 Nov 07
Surprised that nobody else who has actually come across Gavin Yates has said anything. In all my dealings with him, he's come across as intelligent and honest. It sounds as if Wendy will get honest and sound advice from him.
Posted by: Plobotsky on 1:07am Sun 25 Nov 07
Mike, I don't think you quite "get" Open Democracy - "the leading independent website on global current affairs" - or the reason why it's there instead of his old blog. Are you just a little Scotlander?
Posted by: Plobotsky on 1:10am Sun 25 Nov 07
"One senior Labour insider said ..."
Would that be Mick McMadeup, Deputy vice-chair of the Auchterhooly CLP? If not, why won't you name him or her?
Posted by: SNP News Flash on 1:58am Sun 25 Nov 07
SNP URGENT

Meeting at headquarters 107 MacDonald Rd
chair -anyone with a straight face :-)

agenda

1. How NOT to make max political capital out of this

2. How to tell Labour wendy is quite good

3. How to keep Labour's excellent new spin doctor in job
Posted by: Richard Quinn, Glasgow on 2:16am Sun 25 Nov 07
The pantomime continues.
Posted by: Kadok, Scotland on 3:29am Sun 25 Nov 07
Gavin Yates sounds like a good Scotsman. He spouts out and is happy with a smile and a drink.

But this wee body Paul Hutcheon will destroy ANYBODY'S reputation for a cheap line. That's all this 'story' is for him. So please fellow nationalists, refrain from giving Gavin Yates a hard time. Let him breath, let him slag. And let Scotland fourish.
Posted by: paul h, fife on 7:34am Sun 25 Nov 07
He seems a bit obsessed with sticking things up arses! And talking out of his own.
Posted by: Niall McKillop, Lochaber on 7:55am Sun 25 Nov 07
Isn't much of the problem caused by the fact that all of these people, from the politicians spin doctors, special advisors right down to NGO press officers and staff & top union people, are all now part of a new, self perpetuating political class (they would describe it as an elite), which doesn't ever actually do anything other than politics, and doesn't see the need to be in touch with the real world, perhaps because they don't have time.

As Paul H (above) cleverly puts it, they seem mostly to be characterised by the ability to talk out of their arses. Maybe it could be a theme for the next TV reality show.
Posted by: Juan Kerr and his magic hand....., ETH EN.... PEE...oops i\'ve had an accident.... on 8:06am Sun 25 Nov 07
Doonhamer wrote:
You couldn't make this stuff up. Imagine trying to excuse your comments by claiming that they were taken out of context AS they were written as a journalist and do not reflect the opinion of the writer even though it is on his own blog which is under the total control of the writer. What a deluded individual, a perfect choice for a Labour spin doctor. The SNP spin doctors can go on holiday with the opposition doing all their work for them. I can just see the next meeting of Cabinet. Salmond: How long do you want this one to last? Sturgeon: Let's make him last a little longer than the last one. We do not want to create any sympathy for Wendy. McAllister: I could call my mates in the polis to make sure that they hold back any leaked information until we give the go ahead. Salmond: All right, that's sounds like a plan. Just make sure that we have more candidates available when needed. If we run low, look for additional help at Glasgow Council. They always have a few wasters around looking to work for Wendy.
http://scotlandonsun


day.scotsman.com/pol


itics.cfm LOL THEYRE QUIT HAPPY MAKING LOADS UP!

SNP SIDE WITH TORIES!, SNP LOOSE DATA!, ALEX EATS PUPPIES/ OK that ones not real but soon to be a headline once they run out of the stuff Puddles Alexander leaves in small villages......

The hootsmons turning into the political harry potter these days.

WHAT ABOUT 200 GRAND being attributed to a guy who doesnt vote labour and lives in a council house? Fraud isnt it?
Posted by: Juan Kerr and his magic hand....., ETH EN.... PEE...oops i've had an accident.... on 8:23am Sun 25 Nov 07
Labour's new spin chief said yesterday: "My comments have been taken out of context. I wrote them as a journalist in July and they do not reflect my own views. I think Wendy Alexander is a winner as is Andy Kerr."


IT'S AMAZING WHAT A NEW JOAB AND £50000 DOES FOR YOUR MEMORY.......
Posted by: Juan Kerr and his magic hand....., ETH EN.... PEE...oops i've had an accident.... on 8:25am Sun 25 Nov 07
So he now finds "PUDDLES" AFFIABLE and not ABRASIVE?

Someones taking the PEE, oh , sorry that will be PUDDLES.....
Posted by: The Basa, EDI-CGN-NYC on 9:39am Sun 25 Nov 07
http://66.102.9.104/

search?q=cache:OwjYv

GIV750J:ourkingdom.o

pendemocracy.net/200

7/07/24/so-farewell-

jack/

Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 10:33am Sun 25 Nov 07
Something of a first here a spin doctor who actually writes the truth about the Labour party.

Losing one spin doctor was a mistake by Wee Wendy, two was stupid on her part, three would be a disaster. It shows that Wendy Alexander is not fit for purpose.



Posted by: TheWiseOne, Glasgow on 11:02am Sun 25 Nov 07
Mac wrote:
Something of a first here a spin doctor who actually writes the truth about the Labour party. Losing one spin doctor was a mistake by Wee Wendy, two was stupid on her part, three would be a disaster. It shows that Wendy Alexander is not fit for purpose.
Depends on what purpose you had in mind!
Posted by: bobwmac, New Mexico on 11:28am Sun 25 Nov 07
I'm sure he'll be "hands up surrender" and admit he's only in it for the money. Any other explanation for his seeming lack of integrity (as has already been offered?) would prove him so base that he would not have been invited to Agincourt.
Posted by: bullyweeclyde, Edinburgh on 11:37am Sun 25 Nov 07
I could be a Labour spin doctor!

Wendy used to be no very bright, but now she is a “winner“.
Andy Kerr used to lack any inspiring qualities, but now he is a “winner” too.

Alex Salmond used to be a “winner”, but now he merely picking fights with Westminster.

I promise not to describe the First Minister, (at least in public), as resembling an area of female anatomy.

I have no problem with “hard working”, labour voting cloakroom attendants.

Can I claim my £50k now?

You already know my address, bank details and names of my children.

Just transfer the cash by BACS.
Posted by: Weegie on 11:37am Sun 25 Nov 07
Aberdeen Wullie, go and pull yersel
Aberdonians are not only thick as shoite in the neck of a bottle, but tighter than two coats of paint as well.
What a list of great creators and inventors have spewed forth from your wondrous backwater. Not. The only good thing to come out of Aberdeen is the road south
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 11:42am Sun 25 Nov 07
This guy sounds like he is more likely to call wendy a c*** than Alex
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 11:44am Sun 25 Nov 07
Also he's on 10-20k pa less than the last guy
Posted by: McGinty on 11:54am Sun 25 Nov 07
Why pick on Henry Macleish, for talking some sense?
Posted by: Albert, Glasgow on 12:04pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Prophetic question posed in 1998 ..
So will our reviewer (Gavin Yates) give up the day job and embark on a new career as a stand-up comedian?
"No way, at least with journalism no-one stands behind you and tells you that you're not funny."

Wendy should blame Gordon of Cartoon for employing this joker.

http://news.bbc.
co.uk/1/hi/entertain
ment
/edinburgh_festival
/154879.stm
Posted by: seonaidh eibhinn on 12:10pm Sun 25 Nov 07
The really good spin doctors are hard to find.The piping,running,boozi
ng(At one time)Alasdair Campbell(good guy -supports Scotland)tells some of the stories about keeping Tony on track -TBs reputation dipped after he left.Job Description for a good spin doctor
ruthless
networked
Able to work 18hr days
Ability to get something on everyone who matters etc etc
Posted by: Wullie Pullar, Airstrip One on 12:41pm Sun 25 Nov 07
I know this isn't a very popular point of view but I think that we should all (Labour and SNP)be agitating for Wendy to be removed as Leader of the Labour group in the Scottish Parliament. This is partly for compassionate reasons - the woman is quite clearly out of her league and terrified. I mean it - look at her introduction on camera during Question Time last Thursday, her chin is trembling quite out of control and her eyes look genuinely like the proverbial rabbit in the headlights, it took her a long time to get into anything like normal mode and her replies were incoherent in places. I'm starting to feel sorry for her and I don't like it. I know a lot of SNP supporters see her as an asset and Labour supporters might be unwilling to weild the knife, but she must go. Scotland needs an opposition strong enough to agree with the Scottish Government in defiance of London Labour where Scotland's interests demand this. Wendy simply doesn't have the courage, talent or vision. She's a liability to us all.
Posted by: seonaidh eibhinn, edinbra on 12:57pm Sun 25 Nov 07
I think you touched on a very important issue since the posture adopted by Labour and LIbs is to be negative and underminning in every engagement with the SN-.Even if the SNP propose a measure of merit and of benefit to the electorate Nicol and Wendy will oppose it-this ,as you suggest,is a sign of immaturity and inexperience -a dangerous combination when the welfare of a country is at stake
Posted by: Curly Bill, the southwest on 12:59pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Slightly off topic - "One senior Labour insider said ..." - would this qualify as a leak?
Possibly the best person to talk about leaks would be wee Rubber-Gub (or her limo driver).
Posted by: Wullie on 1:06pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Weegie wrote:
Aberdeen Wullie, go and pull yersel
Aberdonians are not only thick as shoite in the neck of a bottle, but tighter than two coats of paint as well.
What a list of great creators and inventors have spewed forth from your wondrous backwater. Not. The only good thing to come out of Aberdeen is the road south
Yes Glasgow is a great city full of drunks ,alcoholics,neds with ginger hair ,poverty,knife crime,drugs and unemployment.The best thing to do is drop a nuclear bomb on Glasgow. It would improve the place.
Posted by: dws on 1:09pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Willie Pullar,

I see your point but nobody held a gun to her head to take the job. She believed her own press, and if she now finds she hasn't the onions for it, she can resign.
In any event, who have Labour got to replace her that would provide any better service?

(Tumbleweeds roll across the plain...)
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:18pm Sun 25 Nov 07
All Glaswegians eat are deep fried mars bars , fish and chips and Irn Bru. Thats why they all have the pasty faced ,malnutrition , scurvy, unhealthy ,ugly look. Why dont they eat some fresh fruit and vegetables.
Posted by: seonaidh eibhinn, edinburgh on 1:25pm Sun 25 Nov 07
DWS
You are right-nobody! but someone else might be a bit better in working towards the common good on issues which merit collaboration.Negati
ve campaigned killed Labours cred in Scotland and they are still at it
Posted by: B.O.Locks, somewhere on 1:31pm Sun 25 Nov 07
SUCH HIGH HOPES FOR INTEGRITY AND HONEST ANSWERS FROM HOOTSMON ONLINE CHAT:


Report as unsuitable 8. WENDY-WETNESS, lying in a gutter, maiking some puddles....... / 11:34am 25 Nov 2007 Eddie. you obviously don't have much in the way of investigative journalism talent or the brains to write other articles? I offer as evidence the fact you have spun this story into about 3 seperate articles.


Thanks for convinicing me i was right in my choice of vote. As obviously a few stooges are scared from the blatant attack from yourself. I say attack. More modget trying to fight a 6'6" person whilst their holding midget at arms length.

Report as unsuitable 9. langtonian, scotus / 12:37pm 25 Nov 2007 LIE,FIB,FABRICATE,Po
rkies,Sup with the devil,Sail close to the wind,Economical with the truth.

These, and a whole raft of individual words plus extended expressions are in the frame when Alex Salmond credulity is put under scrutiny.
Lie= Used in attempting to convince others of that which is indisputable, such as maintaining the colour black is white or vice versa is a prime example. Alex Salmond is too crafty a politician to get himself into a corner with that .

It seems to me that the remaining given examples can be shown to be applicable in various guises at various times.When cornered, he is a past master at applying " political wriggling dissembling " to adjust his position , when the going gets tough.

Tell's lies -NO, too risky. Economical with the truth-? -for me that is the most apt description has always has and always will.

"Prevaricate and be Economical with the TRUTH."

Alex Salmond might consider for an epitaph.

Report as unsuitable 10. eddie barnes / 1:01pm 25 Nov 2007 Hi,
Am online, sitting here enjoying a bowl of pasta. Fire away!
11. WENDY-WETNESS, lying in a gutter, making some puddles....... / 1:04pm 25 Nov 2007 Why have you spun 1 non story into 3? Are you wearing your heart on your sleeve?

Report as unsuitable 12. WENDY-WETNESS, lying in a gutter, making some puddles....... / 1:07pm 25 Nov 2007 Also are you a member of a political party and if so which?

Report as unsuitable 13. eddie barnes / 1:08pm 25 Nov 2007 #6 Pehman - I'm fascinated by whether or not the Tory brand really is 'detoxified' in Socotland. We had a debate about this in the office yesterday with some suggesting that memories of the 80s still ran too deep for people, and others arguing that it was all in the past. Any views?
14. eddie barnes / 1:11pm 25 Nov 2007 Sorry pal, I can't be bothered dealing with people who think it's smart to post insults on line without even having the courage to post their names. Come back next week when you've learned some manners.
15. WENDY-WETNESS, lying in a gutter, making some puddles....... / 1:12pm 25 Nov 2007 Do you have a publication date for the "Alex Salmond eats babies and puppies" "Article...."

Report as unsuitable 16. eddie barnes / 1:12pm 25 Nov 2007 Just to clarify, post #14 was sent to 'Wendy-Wetness'
17. WENDY-WETNESS, lying in a gutter, making some puddles....... / 1:13pm 25 Nov 2007 Ack just like AM2 canny answer a direct question.

I had such high expectations of your integrity.PAL.(sic)

Report as unsuitable 18. WENDY-WETNESS, lying in a gutter, making some puddles....... / 1:14pm 25 Nov 2007 Do you think if your journalism(?) was more "balanced" You might not be mocked?
Posted by: B.O.Locks, somewhere on 2:02pm Sun 25 Nov 07
b. simpson, glasgow / 1:50pm 25 Nov 2007 #25 - Eddie - Was this not the exact idea our article was trying to intimate?

Report as unsuitable 30. b. simpson, glasgow / 1:51pm 25 Nov 2007 sorry . your article.

Report as unsuitable 31. pehman, sussex / 1:51pm 25 Nov 2007 26 Eddie, from your post;-

Obviously, there's nothing but loathing from Labour towards the SNP - nothing else at all.


If you can see that WHY do you go along with it ?

Have you sold your soul when you signed on at sos, or have you always been rabid labour

Report as unsuitable 32. eddie barnes / 1:54pm 25 Nov 2007 #29
No not really - just a thought that came on the back of it.
33. b. simpson, glasgow / 1:58pm 25 Nov 2007 Ok. Thanks. Why did you make 3 articles out of it as mentioned above? Their appears to be nothing else other than this linkage of Tory and Snp?


Wendy Wetness rocks btw! - A soggy freedom fighter in the desert of myrth........


HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!
Posted by: Juan Kerr and his magic hand....., WET WET WET - P1shing I was lucky...... on 2:30pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Curly Bill wrote:
Slightly off topic - \"One senior Labour insider said ...\" - would this qualify as a leak? Possibly the best person to talk about leaks would be wee Rubber-Gub (or her limo driver).
WAHAY!!!!!!!
Posted by: Juan Kerr and his magic hand....., WET WET WET - P1shing I was lucky...... on 2:34pm Sun 25 Nov 07
AY AHHHHH , AHM living in the gutter, living in the gutter wishing i was lucky..And not wearing white.....
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 2:56pm Sun 25 Nov 07
There is an appalling article in the Sunday Times today from a columnist (?) called Jenny Hjul. It is is about the winter festival in Scotland.I feel I have to make following comments here, as the Sunday Times don't even allow comments on this article (in fact it cannot be found anywhere on on their web site):

Why should Ms Hjul, who has a name that is not even remotely Scottish, have been given the right to put out this anti-Scottish rubbish in that newspaper. Who is she anyway? What is her nationality, and if she happens to have been born in Scotland, of which I am not clear, she obviously has ancestry and cultural roots which are distinctly non-Scottish. Can you let us know, then maybe we can be given the opportunity to tear those to ribbons as well!

If this is supposedly “freedom of speech” then it should come with the caveat that it is at least truthful.

Has she any credibility? Most of the institutions covered by the Scottish festival are already well established like Celtic Connections, which is attracts thousands of the public and a wealth of talent from Scotland and oversees and, I would assume, generates a great deal of money for Glasgow and the musicians who perform there. The Burns festival is also a well established tradition both in Scotland and in many other parts of the world. But this is well known.

She claims that this festival is political by the SNP. If this is correct then so is the dumbing-down of Scottish culture by the Labour party in order to discourage supposedly nationalistic themes and separation!

I suggest that it might be to the advantage of the Sunday Times if it moves her away from commenting on things Scottish, or maybe pay her off completely!

Posted by: Melanthios on 3:20pm Sun 25 Nov 07
"Pressure piles on Alexander"

I suggest Anusol and a soft cushion.
Posted by: Oscarmacapfel on 3:55pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Jwil, I believe Jenny Hjul, is the partner of the Telegraph's tame Scot Allan Cochrane. She was also a frequent diner at wee Jack McDonnoll's table at Bute House.

Methspania, I suggest applying said Anusol with a cattle prod to Andy Welexander's ample bahookie.
Posted by: Melanthios on 4:23pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Hi Oscar. We've got Holland in our group.
Posted by: Oscarmacapfel on 4:36pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Hi Meths, yep I know I've been jumping up and down about it like a mad thing on the other site! It's the group of five. Automatic qualification for top team only!
Posted by: Albert, Glasgow on 4:44pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Jwil, this on Jenny Hjul from 25.6.06 ...

"Personally, however, being English in Scotland, I do not sense I am living with the enemy. Neither, as is revealed in this paper today, do many ordinary English folk harbour a hatred of the Scots."

"For those of us who live here, however, the prospect of Scotland severed from the UK and left to its own devices is terrifying. We fear that the leaders we have now are the leaders we would be stuck with. We lie awake at night worrying that the former trade unionists and councillors who lead us now would lead us, unrestrained, in the future."

Source: http://www.timesonli
ne
.co.uk/tol/newspaper
s
/sunday_times/scotla
nd/
article679125.ece
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 4:57pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Guys, you'll get no derogatory comment from me. It is bad form to mock the afflicted.
Posted by: Alex Porter, Madrid on 5:22pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Auto-qualification for top team in all the groups. All second placed teams fo into a play off. That means we could get to put out England if Holland get first place:) Of course we should be aiming for first place. England have Croatia who now need to do the double:@)
Posted by: Oscarmacapfel on 5:25pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Cheers Laird Alex it all makes sense now....Norway bogey team!
Posted by: Alex Porter, Madrid on 5:27pm Sun 25 Nov 07
England have Ukraine and we have Norway. According to UEFA state we have marginally harder teams.
Posted by: dws on 7:37pm Sun 25 Nov 07
There speaks the voice of reason.
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 7:54pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Jwil,I read the article and I too tried to find it on the website to make a comment,because I too was annoyed at the tone.
I presume that she does not actually live in Scotland only prevaricates from afar,which she does on a weekly basis in the Sunday Times all in the same vein.
Good grief another newspaper I will be forced to abandon!I am not going to pay almost £2 for the thing,when all ig gives me is high blood pressure!
Posted by: Rocksteady N1, London on 8:24pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Wullie wrote:
Wendy Alexander is a Glaswegian, so she must be thick , All Glaswegians are thick. Its in the d.n.a.
God M8 - can you say something of any importance?

What on earth is your beef with Glasgow and it's citizens - have you never heard of generalisations. You really are pathetic. Keep to the topic for God's sake
Posted by: OHO, Glasgow on 8:25pm Sun 25 Nov 07
I would have thought that it would be a positive thing for Labour to have recruited someone who is aware of their weaknesses rather than have spent the last few years brown-nosing. I would have been suspicious if they had found someone who had NOT made critical comments recently, given their poor performance. Seems to me that a realist is exactly what they need right now - is there anything about his comments that is not true? No. 100% accurate.
Posted by: Rocksteady N1, London on 8:35pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Wullie wrote:
All Glaswegians eat are deep fried mars bars , fish and chips and Irn Bru. Thats why they all have the pasty faced ,malnutrition , scurvy, unhealthy ,ugly look. Why dont they eat some fresh fruit and vegetables.
You are crazy m8 - i dont know if you're just a wind up merchant or just plain daft.

I really shouldnt be swallowing the bait and I see no one else is - they're all ignoring your stupid nonsense.

This is my last post as I'm giving you credibility by responding to your sh*te.

SHUT UP TOSS*R
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 9:01pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Rocksteady If Glasgow is so flipping wonderful ,Why did you bugger off then to London ? The truth hurts. Why do all glaswegians look like Rab C Nesbitt ?
Posted by: dws, Nursing station, outside the quiet room on 9:49pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Wullie wrote:
Rocksteady If Glasgow is so flipping wonderful ,Why did you bugger off then to London ? The truth hurts. Why do all glaswegians look like Rab C Nesbitt ?
Oh look, Wullie. You've made your nose bleed typing with it.
Doctor says if you take your medication you'll be let out of the strait-jacket.
Come on, take the medication, there's a good lad. You're upsetting everyone.
(Ah, Bless!)
Posted by: dws on 9:55pm Sun 25 Nov 07
OHO wrote:
I would have thought that it would be a positive thing for Labour to have recruited someone who is aware of their weaknesses rather than have spent the last few years brown-nosing. I would have been suspicious if they had found someone who had NOT made critical comments recently, given their poor performance. Seems to me that a realist is exactly what they need right now - is there anything about his comments that is not true? No. 100% accurate.
Perhaps you're right. Maybe they do need a realist, but I wouldn't give Mr Yates much hope of survival in his new job if he continues to criticise his employers.
The Labour party appears still to be in shock. They need to take a long, hard look at themselves and decide where their party (north of the border) are going. If they continue in the same vein they're heading for oblivion.
Posted by: fed up of this drivel, gazing upon this nonsense on 11:02pm Sun 25 Nov 07
If anyone had read Mr Yates's posts on Our Kingdom properly they would have noticed that he was in fact summarising the Scottish media coverage of Scottish political events, not a "personal" column expressing personal opinion.

What exactly about an objective analysis of the political situation in Scotland makes you unsuitable to act as a Press/Commincations officer for a particular political party?

Surely that sort of objective truthful approach is exactly what the labout party needs at the moment?
Posted by: fed up of this drivel, gazing upon this nonsense on 11:08pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Oh, and whilst I'm at it, convenient isn't it that none of the papers have reported on his less than complimentary writings about the SNP - incl. his piece "Scotland doesn't want Independence".

Ah, but of course, that doesn't make quite such good reading does it?....

You'd have thought that the journalistic community might have had a bit more decency than to sh*t on one of their own.

Oops - sorry, forgot, decency doesn't seem to come in to it....
Posted by: Tuffty, Glasgow on 12:40am Mon 26 Nov 07
dws wrote:
Wullie wrote: Rocksteady If Glasgow is so flipping wonderful ,Why did you bugger off then to London ? The truth hurts. Why do all glaswegians look like Rab C Nesbitt ?
Oh look, Wullie. You've made your nose bleed typing with it. Doctor says if you take your medication you'll be let out of the strait-jacket. Come on, take the medication, there's a good lad. You're upsetting everyone. (Ah, Bless!)
Aaaargh, dws - this ...thing....Wullie IS a wind-up merchant. Don't post anything in response. Ignore him.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:07am Mon 26 Nov 07
Tuffty . I thought you committed suicide .
Posted by: Scunnert, Finding Relevance on 7:07am Mon 26 Nov 07
Oscarmacapfel wrote -
"Methspania, I suggest applying said Anusol with a cattle prod to Andy Welexander's ample bahookie."

May I suggest the Hot Shot Sabre Six manufactured in Savage Minnesota? It's much more powerful than the Power Mite manufactured by the same company.
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 11:47am Mon 26 Nov 07
Tufty, dws, Weegie, and everybody else on this thread:
I agree with Scunnert. This imbecile Wullie has the intellect that would compare unfavourably with a child with learning disabilities. I crossed swords with him on the weekday edition's on-line thread in connection with the Trump golf-development and the thread consisted of nothing but a whole day of one line expletives directed at me personally. What you are seeing today is mild stuff. The next day there was a follow-up article, which I didn't join in, but I followed it, and he was at it again. The upshot was that the thread was closed due to persistent abuse. Now you know who you're dealing with. Hopefully he'll just crawl back underneath the stone he came out from underneath.
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 11:49am Mon 26 Nov 07
Correction, meant to say, I agree with Tufty!
Posted by: John on 8:55pm Mon 26 Nov 07
"her media chief, Matthew Marr, resigned in disgrace eight days ago after shouting the c-word at Salmond during an awards ceremony "

ye-es , and having been ejected from the hall for drunken shouting and swearing he then became involved in a contretemps with the cloakroom staff during which he , evidently , found it necessary to urinate into the assembled cloaks , whilst continuing his diatribe .

Hm , is this one going to shape up better or wirse?
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