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RE teachers put their faith in philosophy
Staff believe subject is useful in class to make religion more credible
By Edd McCracken Education Correspondent

THE USE of philosophy in teaching religion in secondary schools is on the increase because teachers feel it "plugs gaps" and makes religion more credible, a new report claims. It also says that some teachers are uneasy with fundamentalist aspects of religion.

The report's author, Graeme Nixon, who lectures in Religious, Moral and Philosophical Studies at the University of Aberdeen, discovered that where once philosophical methods were used implicitly, they are now an explicit feature in the RE classroom.

The initial paper surveyed schools in the Aberdeen area. Nixon is compiling a national survey. When asked why philosophy was being used more explicitly in teaching religion, teachers' reasons ranged from "philosophy fills the gap left by the decline in religion" to wanting "to retreat from the fundamentalism associated with religion".

Nixon said one school inspector claimed philosophy was a fad being used to "sex up" the subject and make it more credible.

"My response was, great, that's great for the subject," he said. "RE has been the Aunt Sally of the Scottish curriculum for long enough, and if it does get taken seriously and fulfils the Curriculum for Excellence criteria for critical thought, then power to it."

The Curriculum for Excellence guidelines recommends pupils embark on a "personal search" within RE to develop understanding for the views of others by comparison with their own experience. But Nixon calls other parts the guidelines "schizophrenic".

"On one hand it says we must recognise the Christian heritage of Scotland and Christianity must be one of the two strands in Religious and Moral Education, but at the same time it recommends that philosophical concepts and philosophical questioning must be part of the armoury of weapons that the teacher must use. There is a tension within the subject, between really advocating something that is non-confessional and faith-neutral but still want a curriculum where one faith is privileged. If we are giving pupils a menu of beliefs and strengthening their reasoning skills by looking at them, then no view should have a privileged place."

Nixon admitted that the rise of philosophy within religious education has upset some. "There are people within the RE world who are suspicious of philosophy and see it as part of the insidious spread of secularism and a threat that religion will eventually be sidelined," he said.

Nixon's findings have been welcomed by secularist organisations. "It is good that children are being asked to take a more critical approach in their religious education classes," said Terry Sanderson, president of the National Secular Society. "This is long overdue. Up until now, religion has had a free run to present itself as the only answer. We welcome these new findings and hope eventually that the very ideal of religious education will give way to a wider idea of philosophical exploration."

Reaction from religious organisations have been more moderate. The Church of Scotland said Nixon's findings were "unsurprising". Jeanne Neal from the Association of Christian Teachers Scotland said philosophy's rise has been noted, but argued that teaching religion in a non-confessional way is what has given the subject more credibility, not philosophy. She added that Christians have nothing to worry about.

"Christian teachers find no threat from this approach as it develops critical thinking and a more understanding and respectful attitude towards reflection on personal belief and behaviour," she said. "Although this is a more secular society, in my experience, students in recent years have been much more interested in existential questions than they were even five years ago."

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Posted by: James on 10:33pm Sat 19 Jan 08
As the number practising Christians continues to fall, it is not surprising that Religious Education in schools is feeling the strain.

The teaching of philosophy is surely a good thing, though at the upper level I think it might be difficult to find suitable teachers.

It is important that children learn about alternative views: yes, the Christian tradition of Scotland is significant, but so too is the tradition of philosophical scepticism exemplified by the writings of David Hume.

One school inspector stated that philosophy was being used to "sex-up" Religious Educaton. I wonder what this can mean for the story of the Virgin Birth!
Posted by: Jimbo on 10:56pm Sat 19 Jan 08
Religion should not be taught in schools. In should be left to individuals to decide what religion if any they wish to follow when they are old enough to make that decision for themselves.

Schools should not be used for the indoctrination of children into superstitious mumbo-jumbo.
Posted by: Stuart, Renfrewshire on 11:34pm Sat 19 Jan 08
Jimbo - teaching religion is not the same as indoctrination, indeed, if - as required - pupils are being taught about more than one religion it is very different from indoctrintation and allows people to make the choices you refer to.

The real problem is that many RME departments are not including much religion in their courses at all and seem to focus much more on the moral side, which might make it easier for them but they should really be teaching their subject properly.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 6:46am Sun 20 Jan 08
Will the Old Firm supporters be discussing philosophy too?
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 6:46am Sun 20 Jan 08
Will the Old Firm supporters be discussing philosophy too?
Posted by: Godfrey, York on 9:43am Sun 20 Jan 08
A few hours per term, in citizenship lessons for instance, would be enough to teach children the basic facts about religion. (This should teach children to question religion and aid them in coming to their own conclusions. Praying would not be included.)
A survey this week revealed that 90% of parents think a more important topic is not taught - financial awareness. This will apply to all pupils in due course, not just a diminishing minority.
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 11:00am Sun 20 Jan 08
Jimbo - teaching religion is not the same as indoctrination,

I don't agree. Any suggestion that religion, in whatever form, is accepted by large groups of people is a type of indoctrination and encourages the idea, especially to the young, that somehow they must fall into line with this.


Posted by: Alan C., Shetland on 11:01am Sun 20 Jan 08
Ah yes, RE (religious education) surely an oxymoron!
We may as well have "Star wars education"or "hitch hikers guide to the galaxy education"
I totally agree with Godfrey, the time would be much better spent teaching bairns about financial awareness.
Posted by: davie on 11:26am Sun 20 Jan 08
I can see no problem at all for most schools however the RC church might have something to say if they are forced to teach their kids something that is outside the teachings of the church.

If this is in the curriculum and by extension, in the exams, the kids form RC schools mighht feel aggrieved that they are at a disadvanage.
Posted by: Room 13, Fort William on 1:25pm Sun 20 Jan 08
There's no reason why schools can't teach both philosophy and financial management at the same time!
It can be done - Room 13 provides young people with experience of both along with arts, citizenship, creative & critical thinking skills and a lot more besides.
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Posted by: Keith Budden, Rayleigh,Essex on 1:57pm Sun 20 Jan 08
The problem is not the belief in God, or not, which is unprovable, but supporting Religious Doctrine about which a great deal can be proved. It can be proved that Genesis originated from older myths, it can be proved that there was no Christmas story, Virgin Mary or Resurrection in the original New Testament. (See Codex Siniaticus and Codex Vaticanus etc).
Posted by: Sara on 2:05pm Sun 20 Jan 08
The tradition of RE in our schools originates less with the desire to present knowledge objectively than the desire to increase and sustain the practice of Christian worship.

Times have greatly changed, and even most people who admit to being Christian in Scotland today do not practise Christianity. In cultural terms they may see themselves as Christian, depending on the question asked, but Sunday is a day for doing many things other than attending church.

More philosophy in the RE classroom is a good thing, I suppose. I consider that it would be better, however, to have RE taught as part of a philosophy course. Children, afterall, are increasingly choosing the subject because of its philosophical content. Religious campaigners could easily misrepresent this fact.

Posted by: Adrian Martinez, Edinburgh on 10:53pm Sun 20 Jan 08
The new orthodoxy (at least from some of these comments) would appear to be that it is better not to teach our youngsters that there are many ways to understand the world, expressive of diverse cultures, languages and philosophies. I wish I had had the opportunity as a child to study the kind of critical appreciation of religion and philosophy that many students of RMPS are now able to engage in.

My fear is that the gainsayers will become more ferocious in their condemnation of any kind of Religious Education and we will be left to witness a battle between fundamentalisms of all kinds, atheist and religious, with no hope of resolution because nobody will think criticaly about their own position.

The very idea that we might view an education about how we can find meaning and value in our lives at personal, social and global levels of inquiry as easily replaceable with "financial awareness" classes beggars belief!
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 11:25pm Sun 20 Jan 08
How can something made up by man to keep the masses docile be made credible. What is the point in arguing about something you can not prove exists.
Posted by: Martin, York on 7:06pm Mon 21 Jan 08
Just what is an atheist fundamentalist Adrian.
Is he someone who threatens to kill people who were once atheists but who are no more?
Is he someone who plants bombs outside meeting places used by those who are merely agnostics?
Is he someone who resorts to burning those at the stake or drowning those who are rumoured to have a religious belief?
Or is he someone who asks for evidence before his children are presented with information described as true?
Posted by: Adrian Martinez, Edinburgh on 12:08am Tue 22 Jan 08
Hi Martin,
I would suggest that, in this case, a fundamentalist of any persuasion is someone who is incapable of subjecting their own views to scrutiny. For example; someone who thinks that proving or disproving the existence of a metaphysical reality by empirical means/evidence is (evidently) not willing to engage in discussion about their assumptions and epistemology (Since empiricism, by its very nature is incapable of giving us any information about this area).

I am no more in favour of murderers, bombers and fanatics than anyone else. Fundamentalists do not always kill and maim though, they simply refuse to engage in discussion and debate because certainty is more important than thought. As such, our friend R.Dawkins is a candidate for that description.
Posted by: Richard Sneddon, Aberdeenshire on 9:18am Tue 22 Jan 08
Religious, Moral and Philosophical Studies is important for all pupils in our Secondary Education system as it helps the pupils come to an understanding about different cultures and how the people of those cultures view the world. Philosophy helps to bolster the Religious debate, regardless whether or not you are of a religious persuasion does not matter. What is important is that we give the pupils the best opportunity to receive the education that is of intricate value to them as questioning individuals. Within the RMPS classroom all subject matter is treated on the whole neutrally, with the RMPS teachers giving the best instruction possible, presenting facts and helping pupils understand the difference between fact and opinion. Only in the RMPS classroom are pupils able to express their views without judgement, sadly many bring with them prejudices that they have received from parents which are unprovable within a philosophical agrument.
Posted by: AJ on 10:35pm Sat 15 Mar 08
In training to be a Roman Catholic priest one must do a degree in philosophy before theology. This seems to mirror the Catholic perspective and experience.
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