Statesmanlike Salmond spreads his wings on European stage Powerplay GORDON BROWN be warned. Alex Salmond is keeping a diary. Every anti-Scottish remark, every secret deal on transferring prisoners, every intelligence cock-up over airport security is being recorded for posterity. "It's a brilliant read," he says with characteristic modesty.
Well, I suppose he's got a lot to be immodest about. Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150, and to unprecedented acclaim from the Scottish press. In the parliamentary recess, the new first minister is touring Europe to spread the news.
Standing anonymously in the concourse of Edinburgh Airport with their entourage of young female civil servants, the Salmonds look a bit like a family off to attend a wedding, Salmond's wife, Moira, carrying a posh hat in a big box. "John F Kennedy used to introduce himself as the man who accompanies Jackie Kennedy," the first minister remarks. "I'm the man who accompanies Moira's hat." Just as well too, because their luggage goes astray and they arrive in Brussels accompanied only by Moira's hat. Fortunately, it's the most important piece of kit, since they are meeting the Queen, for the 90th anniversary of the battle of Passchendaele.
It's Salmond's fourth close encounter with royalty and he is very proud of his good relations with the Queen, and with Prince Charles, who was instrumental in getting Dumfries House and its contents saved for the nation, with a little help from Bute House. Salmond intends to go through the formal ceremony to become a privy counsellor in a couple of weeks. "All that walking backward and garters? Aren't you worried you're becoming a part of the establishment, seduced by the embrace of monarchy?" He doesn't rise to it, saying the Queen understands the Scottish Question a lot better than her government. "She knows a Scot became the King of England."
For a political leader with a 24/7 schedule, Salmond is intensely relaxed. He is the virtuoso of just being there. Whether it is laying wreaths with the Queen at the Menin Gate or sitting in the airport bus in Edinburgh, exchanging banter with passengers, Salmond has an ability to adapt to his surroundings and appear to dominate them without really doing anything.
The first minister is a big man - though, with a rigorous diet, trying to get smaller - and he is renowned for having an ego to match. But Salmond seems completely uninterested in the trappings of power or celebrity, and doesn't appear to have any particular sense of his own personal importance. One of the most intelligent politicians of his age, he has the gift of normality.
There's no media fanfare associated with his inaugural trip to Brussels, his first overseas engagement since he became first minister. No motorcades or fancy dinners, just a sweaty reception at Scotland House - a pokey corner of an anonymous Brussels block - with the usual tartan tat of whisky and pipers. Salmond works the room, mainly lower- order bureaucrats, some business types and local Caledonian societies. "The Scotteratti", Salmond calls them. "But don't underestimate the networks of Scots expats. They are a very valuable resource, they know everything that's going on here, and they tell us".
When Salmond gets up to speak no- one expects more than a few pleasantries, least of all Michael Aron, the senior Scottish Executive civil servant whose internal memo about Scottish ministers being kept in the anteroom during UK-led European delegations was leaked 18 months ago. Officials tell me that Jack McConnell hardly ever spoke at events like these, worried about charges of getting above himself and preferring to merge into the crowd. But Salmond is all about getting above himself and he doesn't do merging.
The first minister launches into a blatantly political speech, declaring: "I believe that it is time to transform the nature of Scotland's representation and impact in Europe tonight, my message is clear and unambiguous - this is the time for Scotland to assume our obligations and responsibilities and to help mould the world around us to rediscover the sense of internationalism which once defined our nation."
The Eurocrats look slightly bewildered by Salmond's Brussels declaration. This wasn't a political event, and there was no-one of any importance present. Not even the Scottish press, who gave up attending these things because nothing happens - except this time. For Salmond is making clear this goes way beyond taking the lead in fishing talks. On issues from energy to financial services, if the first minister means what he says, Scotland will no longer adopt the agreed UK negotiating position, but will increasingly pursue an independent line in Europe.
The officials from the UK office in Brussels certainly got the message: "This is really heavy," says one. "If the Scots are going to start making their own policy here, then there could be tears before bed." Later, I ask Salmond why he didn't seek a bigger build-up to this milestone address. "Some things are better understated," he says. "Such as: We hold these truths to be self-evident.'" Hmm. I don't recall Thomas Jefferson delivering the American Declaration of Independence over warm wine and canapes.
How does he respond to the charge that he was getting above himself, exceeding his authority? After all, as a minority leader in a regional parliament, how can he unilaterally alter Britain's constitutional relationship with Europe? There is no machinery for Scotland to be independently represented. "We'll see. I think the people here realise what we are about, and that Scotland's interest has not been articulated in the past. It's not actually about independence. Look at Flanders, which leads for Belgium on fishing talks." Indeed, the Länder regional governments in Germany mostly have their own independent representation in Europe, as do autonomous Spanish provinces like Catalonia.
It takes supreme self-confidence, not to say brass, to get away with this kind of thing. Any less secure politician might have feared being laughed at. But Salmond gets away with it because of his immunity to ridicule and self-doubt, because of the prestige he has built in his short spell in government, and also because he can speak intelligently and with a passion that belies the formal limits of his political power.
As with his minority administration in Holyrood, which has no visible means of support, people suspend disbelief. He sounds like the real deal. Influential people may not have been listening to him in Brussels, but lots of their officials were - the Brussels "bureaucrati" - and they seemed impressed, excited even.
Next day, Salmond did a round of engagements with European commissioners, including Peter Mandelson, one-time New Labour "prince of darkness", and now the commissioner with responsibility for world trade. Salmond claims to have struck up an instant rapport and to have achieved "a result" over the problem of Norwegian salmon dumping. "I've a lot of respect for Peter Mandelson and what he has achieved," he says, utterly straight-faced. "Actually, I asked him if he was writing a diary. He said, not one like "that"' - meaning Alastair Campbell's - which he says he hasn't read." Salmond makes a virtue of being on improbably friendly terms with everyone he meets, and it seems to work. "I'm not here to pick fights," he says.
But is he going to pick a fight with Gordon Brown? Tomorrow, on the next leg of Salmond's grand tour, the first minister will be face to face for the first time with the new prime minister. The occasion is the British-Irish Council in Belfast, where Salmond joins the leaders of the other devolved parliaments and assemblies.
It may not be on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting, but there is no doubt that Salmond is very interested in getting access to the £1.5 billion in unspent Scottish End Year Flexibility cash which he says is sitting in the Treasury because Labour failed to make any use of it over the past eight years. "Scotland is treated with less responsibility in its financial affairs than a lunatic, a bankrupt or a minor," he says. Unlike a lowly local authority, the Scottish Executive cannot borrow money, or even take charge of its own unspent revenues, Salmond complains.
And, of course, there is the matter of attendance allowances for older disabled people, which were withheld by London after the introduction of free personal care. "It's a mad mechanism," Salmond says, "The idea that you can't change policy in Scotland for fear of losing funding is outrageous." Labour MSPs in Holyrood are convinced that London will similarly refuse to keep paying £380 million in council tax benefits if and when Salmond abolishes the council tax. But the first minister isn't so sure they're right. He believes that Brown will allow payments to be maintained through the Barnett Formula and the funding mechanism because the last thing Downing St wants is a row over Scottish spending.
Intriguingly, Salmond believes he is close to achieving a modus vivendi with the prime minister, largely through the way in which the governments co-operated over the Glasgow Airport attack. He has made a point of setting aside the row over the transfer of Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi which Number 10 now accepts was discussed during Tony Blair's meeting with Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in May. Salmond says he deliberately didn't depart from the "Britishness" agenda that Gordon Brown raised in the aftermath of the failed terrorists bombings. Nor did he rise to the challenge when he was briefed against for saying that the terrorists weren't Scottish.
Clearly, there is mutual respect here; something that makes Salmond think that he can do business with the new PM. I ask: "What's the difference for you between dealing with Brown and Blair?" The answer is surprising. "Well, I wouldn't lie to him," says Salmond. "Would you have lied to Blair?" "No, though I didn't really get the chance, since we didn't talk, but I wouldn't have trusted him." Perhaps because Brown, unlike his predecessor, understands devolution and understands Scottish politics, Salmond thinks relations will be better.
Chance would be a fine thing. The reality is that Salmond and Brown are deadly enemies, who will look to every opportunity to outsmart each other. There is an epic quality to this confrontation between the two most powerful Scottish politicians of their generation: the lad o' pairts versus the son of the manse; the quick-witted iconoclastic Scottish radical versus the strict and moralising dominie.
And what an extraordinary stage on which to hold their first skirmish - in Belfast, presided over by the former megaphone of militant Protestantism, the Rev Ian Paisley, and the Republican nationalist, Martin McGuinness. When Gordon Brown supported devolution all those years ago, did he ever think he would preside as prime minister over a gathering like this? With a nationalist first minister of Scotland and a nationalist acting first minister of Wales?
Salmond was joined at the Menin Gate memorial by Ieuan Wyn Jones, of Plaid Cymru, who is co-leader of the new Labour-nationalist coalition in Cardiff. They discussed matters of common interest - in particular finance and how to strike a better deal for the national parliaments in their dealings with London. The whole issue of joint sub-committees between Holyrood and Westminster is on the way to being resolved. Mind you, the question of separate Scottish representation in Europe certainly is not. The government line remains that Scotland is best represented by the UK in Europe, because that way it gets listened to, and there is no prospect of there being any change in the constitutional relationship with Brussels - so watch this space.
Salmond returned from his Brussels expedition claiming to be well satisfied with the response. But in the end, what has actually been achieved? A change of tone, certainly, and some big talk - but can Scotland really play in the Euro-league?
Like everything Salmond does right now, his Brussels trip was an exercise in improvisation, riding on the back of an official engagement. Salmond is a man in a hurry, who has to seize every opportunity to make an impact before being closed down by the logic of the parliamentary arithmetic in Holyrood. He needs to move as fast as possible because a moving target is always harder for the opposition to hit.
"I was determined not to end up like Donald Dewar, that was constantly in my mind." But his real role model comes as a surprise, to me at least. "I'm a great fan of Harold Wilson, you know." Harold Wilson a political inspiration? The Gannex-wearing pipe-smoker who became the butt of 1960s cartoonists? It's not as daft as it sounds: Wilson achieved a lot in two years, with a minority administration, and then won a comfortable majority in 1966.
Wilson was a brilliant political improviser also. Somehow, I think Salmond will be in power long enough to get a decent diary out of it at least.
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Posted by: Im not here on 11:01pm Sat 14 Jul 07
When was the last time that such an article was, or even could be, written about a Scottish political leader, let alone a First Minister. I tell you it's great to have someone like him representing us. Go on Sir Ek!!!
When was the last time that such an article was, or even could be, written about a Scottish political leader, let alone a First Minister. I tell you it's great to have someone like him representing us. Go on Sir Ek!!!
Posted by: Conway on 1:11am Sun 15 Jul 07
Im lost for words ....at last a honest and positive assesment for Iain
Im lost for words ....at last a honest and positive assesment for Iain
Posted by: paul h, fife on 1:24am Sun 15 Jul 07
Just another small example of a change in this country. A step on the road to normality. It is the first time I've ever felt that we have decent, honest and idealistic leadership. This man wants to trully transform Scotland into a better, more fulfilled place. It is a breath of fresh air and as such democracy and people's faith in politics are strengthened.
Just another small example of a change in this country. A step on the road to normality. It is the first time I've ever felt that we have decent, honest and idealistic leadership. This man wants to trully transform Scotland into a better, more fulfilled place. It is a breath of fresh air and as such democracy and people's faith in politics are strengthened.
Posted by: Biffo, Glasgow on 2:21am Sun 15 Jul 07
The sycophant praising the egotist; it’s amazing how potent warm wine can be.
Lat week President Salmond was doing the Home Nations, this week it was Europe, no doubt next it will be the Americas, then China, the Commonwealth and soon Mars?
[italic]“Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150”;[/italic] what has he “[italic]done[/italic] ” Iain? What has he done that has not cost us all money (his grandstanding trips included)?
Gordon Brown should rise to the bait, ask Salmond (in his Westminster capacity) to join his cabinet then give him special responsibility for U.K. fishing policy.
The sycophant praising the egotist; it’s amazing how potent warm wine can be.
Lat week President Salmond was doing the Home Nations, this week it was Europe, no doubt next it will be the Americas, then China, the Commonwealth and soon Mars?
“Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150”; what has he “
done ” Iain? What has he done that has not cost us all money (his grandstanding trips included)?
Gordon Brown should rise to the bait, ask Salmond (in his Westminster capacity) to join his cabinet then give him special responsibility for U.K. fishing policy.
Posted by: JGH on 4:26am Sun 15 Jul 07
Erm.. self-respect?
[quote]“Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150”; what has he “done ” Iain? What has he done that has not cost us all money (his grandstanding trips included)?[/quote]
Erm.. self-respect?
“Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150”; what has he “done ” Iain? What has he done that has not cost us all money (his grandstanding trips included)?
Posted by: MacShimmy on 4:53am Sun 15 Jul 07
GH on 4:26am today
Not just self respect, but national and international respect. Even among a good proportion of labourites, conservatives, and lib/dems
Competence much drive the rabid unionists mad.
GH on 4:26am today
Not just self respect, but national and international respect. Even among a good proportion of labourites, conservatives, and lib/dems
Competence much drive the rabid unionists mad.
Posted by: Frank on 6:31am Sun 15 Jul 07
What a sycophantic article. When a newspaper writes a profile like this for a Labour figure, the SNP on this board are all spitting bile and asking for the resignation of the journalist who wrote it.
Nevertheless, every article has a grain of truth, and here it is:
[italic]Salmond has an ability to adapt to his surroundings and appear to dominate them without really doing anything.
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What a sycophantic article. When a newspaper writes a profile like this for a Labour figure, the SNP on this board are all spitting bile and asking for the resignation of the journalist who wrote it.
Nevertheless, every article has a grain of truth, and here it is:
Salmond has an ability to adapt to his surroundings and appear to dominate them without really doing anything.
Posted by: Im not here on 7:14am Sun 15 Jul 07
Biffo and Frank: Really, what are you afraid of?? It sounds as though you two are still in the depths of Labour thralldom.
"We canny do; we're going to show we canny do; and we're going to be proud when we show we canny do."
Have some hope for your own sakes.
Biffo and Frank: Really, what are you afraid of?? It sounds as though you two are still in the depths of Labour thralldom.
"We canny do; we're going to show we canny do; and we're going to be proud when we show we canny do."
Have some hope for your own sakes.
Posted by: donald, glasgow on 7:25am Sun 15 Jul 07
The Labour Daily Herald's no' gonny like this.
The Labour Daily Herald's no' gonny like this.
Posted by: bullyweealba, Edinburgh on 8:34am Sun 15 Jul 07
The unionist mantra of “we canny do” is partially true.
It should read however, “they canny do”
It’s time for the serial hard of thinking, low achievers to move aside, and allow the Alex Salmonds of the world to get on with repairing the damage caused by 50 years of labour misrule and neglect.
The unionist mantra of “we canny do” is partially true.
It should read however, “they canny do”
It’s time for the serial hard of thinking, low achievers to move aside, and allow the Alex Salmonds of the world to get on with repairing the damage caused by 50 years of labour misrule and neglect.
Posted by: Roy on 8:42am Sun 15 Jul 07
Eck has got off to a great start and has generated some badly-needed self-respect for Scotland. But it is time to stand down from that Westminster seat, Alex.
Eck has got off to a great start and has generated some badly-needed self-respect for Scotland. But it is time to stand down from that Westminster seat, Alex.
Posted by: R MacLeod, London on 8:46am Sun 15 Jul 07
Poor Frank and Biffo so used to mediocrity and subserviance to Westminster.
prefer a leader like Joke Mcconnel that does what he is told ,prefer not to stand up for our country .
The Scottish cringe in full flight .
Go on Alex you make us all proud and feel better about ourselves and our nation
Poor Frank and Biffo so used to mediocrity and subserviance to Westminster.
prefer a leader like Joke Mcconnel that does what he is told ,prefer not to stand up for our country .
The Scottish cringe in full flight .
Go on Alex you make us all proud and feel better about ourselves and our nation
Posted by: Uncle Sam, Seatle on 8:49am Sun 15 Jul 07
Lincoln's Gettysburg address(Government of the people,for the people,by the people) was over before the press realised it had started.There are no pictures, as the primitive cameras were not yet in action. This speech has reverberated down through history nonetheless.
Lincoln's Gettysburg address(Government of the people,for the people,by the people) was over before the press realised it had started.There are no pictures, as the primitive cameras were not yet in action. This speech has reverberated down through history nonetheless.
Posted by: bullyweealba, Edinburgh on 9:52am Sun 15 Jul 07
Iain Macwhirter robustly defended his views just now on Radio Scotland. The labourites were represented by the pathetic Margaret Curren, who struggled to construct a single coherent sentence.
An example of her tortured logic was, “Salmond failed to deliver when he said he would not return as leader of the SNP, well, he did return, and we don’t even know why he stood down in the first place”
Well, he sure did return Margaret, and if you think this is an example of failure, it is little wonder that you are in opposition, and Alex Salmond is First Minister.
Iain Macwhirter robustly defended his views just now on Radio Scotland. The labourites were represented by the pathetic Margaret Curren, who struggled to construct a single coherent sentence.
An example of her tortured logic was, “Salmond failed to deliver when he said he would not return as leader of the SNP, well, he did return, and we don’t even know why he stood down in the first place”
Well, he sure did return Margaret, and if you think this is an example of failure, it is little wonder that you are in opposition, and Alex Salmond is First Minister.
Posted by: Mike, Edinburgh on 10:04am Sun 15 Jul 07
This is the Alex that we need the world to see. He is a credit to his parents, and to the Scottish Nation. Its amazing how ignorant the world is to this mans sincerity. No matter how far he takes us, he will be remembered by many as a 21st Century Hero and rolemodel for all future Scottish Leaders. I just hope we as a nation can live up to the credit this man gives us, as he travels in his promotion of Scotland.
This is the Alex that we need the world to see. He is a credit to his parents, and to the Scottish Nation. Its amazing how ignorant the world is to this mans sincerity. No matter how far he takes us, he will be remembered by many as a 21st Century Hero and rolemodel for all future Scottish Leaders. I just hope we as a nation can live up to the credit this man gives us, as he travels in his promotion of Scotland.
Posted by: Anders Nogiets, Netherlands on 10:07am Sun 15 Jul 07
Mr Salmond is laying the ground for a proper foreign policy for Scotland that is now giving Scotland a voice on the international stage.
In the near future the First Minister should nominate a Foreign Minister for Scotland so that adequate time and resources can be given to this role.
Mr Salmond is laying the ground for a proper foreign policy for Scotland that is now giving Scotland a voice on the international stage.
In the near future the First Minister should nominate a Foreign Minister for Scotland so that adequate time and resources can be given to this role.
Posted by: Conway, east lothian on 11:10am Sun 15 Jul 07
The good thing is that even when the SNP eventually lose power and someone else is elected ,the groundwork will have been done and Scotland will be so much further forward then we were after 10 years of the Lib/Lab control.
Alex S can appear smug but his desire is to see Scotland promoted and to take part in the International world I agree with "bullyweealba " its so refreshing to hear someone talk Scotland up.
Scottish politics hasnt been so interesting....
The good thing is that even when the SNP eventually lose power and someone else is elected ,the groundwork will have been done and Scotland will be so much further forward then we were after 10 years of the Lib/Lab control.
Alex S can appear smug but his desire is to see Scotland promoted and to take part in the International world I agree with "bullyweealba " its so refreshing to hear someone talk Scotland up.
Scottish politics hasnt been so interesting....
Posted by: Ian Black, France on 11:17am Sun 15 Jul 07
So far the level of skilled political management shown by Alex Salmond in creating support for modest but tangible improvements augers well for Scotland's Parliament.
So far the level of skilled political management shown by Alex Salmond in creating support for modest but tangible improvements augers well for Scotland's Parliament.
Posted by: PMK, Ayrshire on 11:21am Sun 15 Jul 07
It is great that Scotland finally has an individual (and party) at the helm that want to do more that quietly follow the Westminster line. Independence is likely a long way off (unfortunately) but everything this executive can do to build confidence and self-awareness will weight the debates of the future via the nation-(re)building process. Very much needed after the demolition job done by successive London Govts. to Scotland's self confidence.
It is great that Scotland finally has an individual (and party) at the helm that want to do more that quietly follow the Westminster line. Independence is likely a long way off (unfortunately) but everything this executive can do to build confidence and self-awareness will weight the debates of the future via the nation-(re)building process. Very much needed after the demolition job done by successive London Govts. to Scotland's self confidence.
Posted by: Tom McAlister on 12:15pm Sun 15 Jul 07
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[bold]Quote from yer man,"sycophantic" Frank at 6:whatever today.
"Nevertheless,every article has a grain of truth."
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"The Scotteratti", Salmond calls them." but don't underestimate the networks of Scot's expats.They are a very valuable resource, they know everything that's going on here and they tell us."
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Aye,right enough so.Furthermore you can add to that,the goodwill from other nationals who's goodwill has only been reinforced by their distaste of London policies,both past and present.Be very aware of that "Frank".Those good friends of Scotland and others who wish her well,could not by any stretch of the imagination be described as being "sycophantic"
Every heard the expression "grain mountains",Frank?
Yours, one of those tens of thousands of expats.
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Quote from yer man,"sycophantic" Frank at 6:whatever today.
"Nevertheless,every article has a grain of truth."
"The Scotteratti", Salmond calls them." but don't underestimate the networks of Scot's expats.They are a very valuable resource, they know everything that's going on here and they tell us."
Aye,right enough so.Furthermore you can add to that,the goodwill from other nationals who's goodwill has only been reinforced by their distaste of London policies,both past and present.Be very aware of that "Frank".Those good friends of Scotland and others who wish her well,could not by any stretch of the imagination be described as being "sycophantic"
Every heard the expression "grain mountains",Frank?
Yours, one of those tens of thousands of expats.
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Posted by: The Bookseller, Edinburgh on 12:45pm Sun 15 Jul 07
Still enjoying these articles Iain, and still waiting to see what positive changes Salmond et al can make. So far, so good... Meanwhile, you seem to have turned the attack-dogs into lap-dogs for at least one week! Enjoy it!
Still enjoying these articles Iain, and still waiting to see what positive changes Salmond et al can make. So far, so good... Meanwhile, you seem to have turned the attack-dogs into lap-dogs for at least one week! Enjoy it!
Posted by: Biffa on 12:45pm Sun 15 Jul 07
My posting id has been almost stolen by an arch Unionist!
I'm flattered but any more of this kind of nonsense and I'll have to come round to your place and confiscate your collection of Gordon Brown photographs. Especially that one.
My posting id has been almost stolen by an arch Unionist!
I'm flattered but any more of this kind of nonsense and I'll have to come round to your place and confiscate your collection of Gordon Brown photographs. Especially that one.
Posted by: Mr Lachie Todd, Edinburgh on 12:46pm Sun 15 Jul 07
I would have thought Iain MacWhirter would have known better than give Gallus Alex plaudits in his column? I thought journalists were supposed to be apolitical? Salmond has really done very little since being elected because he leads a minority government which cannot pass its select legislation without the support of the opposition parties. Salmond is a slick performer but he is now in charge of a Scottish Coalition Executive! Strangely, coalition governments have also evolved in Northern Ireland and Wales, with the unlikeliest of bedfellows sharing power! Salmond is undoubtedly head and shoulders above (and belly beyond) his feart predecessors but the fact remains the majority of Scottish voters still cling to their Union comfort blanket. Gallus Alex has his work cut out if he actually believes that he can convince all these snotty, greeetin-faced weans to change their Union Flag blanket for a Saltire coloured one?
Lachie Todd
I would have thought Iain MacWhirter would have known better than give Gallus Alex plaudits in his column? I thought journalists were supposed to be apolitical? Salmond has really done very little since being elected because he leads a minority government which cannot pass its select legislation without the support of the opposition parties. Salmond is a slick performer but he is now in charge of a Scottish Coalition Executive! Strangely, coalition governments have also evolved in Northern Ireland and Wales, with the unlikeliest of bedfellows sharing power! Salmond is undoubtedly head and shoulders above (and belly beyond) his feart predecessors but the fact remains the majority of Scottish voters still cling to their Union comfort blanket. Gallus Alex has his work cut out if he actually believes that he can convince all these snotty, greeetin-faced weans to change their Union Flag blanket for a Saltire coloured one?
Lachie Todd
Posted by: Tom McAlister on 1:13pm Sun 15 Jul 07
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[bold]PS."Frank", Pity yon plan A went pearshaped on that erm wee agreement yer BLiar had with new best pal in Tripoli recently. So it's plan B time now,is it? Wouldn't it be a diplomatic coup if the star attraction wasn't present at his erm appeal trial? Makes a very limited remit every so simpler,doesn't it just.
..........And BLiar wants to do what in the future? Reprepresenting precisely whom and with whose remit?
No doubt he will carry out that task with integrity,tranparenc
y,honourably and with complete competency as his spinned track record has revealed himself of being so.
So he's to become a man on a mision now? A missionary even. Aye right enough.Ah don't trust folk who hear and obey celestial beings,so ah don't.[/bold]
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PS."Frank", Pity yon plan A went pearshaped on that erm wee agreement yer BLiar had with new best pal in Tripoli recently. So it's plan B time now,is it? Wouldn't it be a diplomatic coup if the star attraction wasn't present at his erm appeal trial? Makes a very limited remit every so simpler,doesn't it just.
..........And BLiar wants to do what in the future? Reprepresenting precisely whom and with whose remit?
No doubt he will carry out that task with integrity,tranparenc
y,honourably and with complete competency as his spinned track record has revealed himself of being so.
So he's to become a man on a mision now? A missionary even. Aye right enough.Ah don't trust folk who hear and obey celestial beings,so ah don't.
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Posted by: R MacLeod, London on 1:14pm Sun 15 Jul 07
Lachie Todd ,I understand your comments completely ,however just think how far the cause of self determination has come in the last few months .
Pre May 3rd this was just a dream ,let us enjoy the moment and remember these unionists cannot now ever put the genie back in the bottle .
Alex S will continue to build the self confidence of the nation and the Parliament .
These actions are the complete opposite of the previous Executives who wanted to keep Scotland cowed and low in self esteem .
It will take time and it will take patience ,however the die is cast and Independence is coming .
I alas do not know how quickly but I at last believe in my lifetime ,that is something only a short while ago I did not believe possible .
If as I suspect at the next UK General Election it all goes badly for Labour watch for the rats and sinking ships .
These careerists and trough swillers will even embrace Independence to keep their snouts in the trough
Lachie Todd ,I understand your comments completely ,however just think how far the cause of self determination has come in the last few months .
Pre May 3rd this was just a dream ,let us enjoy the moment and remember these unionists cannot now ever put the genie back in the bottle .
Alex S will continue to build the self confidence of the nation and the Parliament .
These actions are the complete opposite of the previous Executives who wanted to keep Scotland cowed and low in self esteem .
It will take time and it will take patience ,however the die is cast and Independence is coming .
I alas do not know how quickly but I at last believe in my lifetime ,that is something only a short while ago I did not believe possible .
If as I suspect at the next UK General Election it all goes badly for Labour watch for the rats and sinking ships .
These careerists and trough swillers will even embrace Independence to keep their snouts in the trough
Posted by: Calvo, East Renfrewshire on 1:23pm Sun 15 Jul 07
Scotland needs Alex Salmond. The nation has long lacked the leadership, self-esteem and confidence necessary to promote its own interests both nationally and internationally. Since becoming First Minister, Salmond's efforts to put this right have been exceptional. Who, with Scotland's interests at heart, would seek to disrupt this progress?
Scotland needs Alex Salmond. The nation has long lacked the leadership, self-esteem and confidence necessary to promote its own interests both nationally and internationally. Since becoming First Minister, Salmond's efforts to put this right have been exceptional. Who, with Scotland's interests at heart, would seek to disrupt this progress?
Posted by: Tom McAlister on 1:38pm Sun 15 Jul 07
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The problem is "Lachie Todd",Ah'm no a greetin faced bairn; ah've been around a bit ye see.
Furthermore, yon so called comfort blanket is over three hundred years old and it's more than a wee bit thread bare.It's full of holes and in tatters and is of no use to man nor beast in comforting them from today's elements.It offers no protection whatsoever.
Fit for purpose,Eh? I think not.
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The problem is "Lachie Todd",Ah'm no a greetin faced bairn; ah've been around a bit ye see.
Furthermore, yon so called comfort blanket is over three hundred years old and it's more than a wee bit thread bare.It's full of holes and in tatters and is of no use to man nor beast in comforting them from today's elements.It offers no protection whatsoever.
Fit for purpose,Eh? I think not.
.
Posted by: Mark, Glasgow on 2:21pm Sun 15 Jul 07
Well Alex appears to be doing a fine job on the home front and in Europe of building our profile as a country. However we have a problem coming where in any of the parties in Scotland do we have more potential strong leaders. Too many of them look like 2nd rate councilors or union leaders.
Well Alex appears to be doing a fine job on the home front and in Europe of building our profile as a country. However we have a problem coming where in any of the parties in Scotland do we have more potential strong leaders. Too many of them look like 2nd rate councilors or union leaders.
Posted by: John, Leven on 3:12pm Sun 15 Jul 07
Ian
I would take issue with the achieved more in 50 days than Nulabour achieved in 150!!!
Just what exactly did Nulabour achieve in 8 long years? very little if truth be told, the smoking ban apart, can anyone name another major achievement.
Alex Salmond is head and shoulders above any politician in Scotland at the moment, you only have to look at the opposition, Gazza Brown, wee Dougie Alexander, Lord Ha Ha, they are being shown up for what they are, very ordinary indeed.
Keep up the good work Alex.
To all Nulabour apologists, time to get off yer knees boys and girls.
Ian
I would take issue with the achieved more in 50 days than Nulabour achieved in 150!!!
Just what exactly did Nulabour achieve in 8 long years? very little if truth be told, the smoking ban apart, can anyone name another major achievement.
Alex Salmond is head and shoulders above any politician in Scotland at the moment, you only have to look at the opposition, Gazza Brown, wee Dougie Alexander, Lord Ha Ha, they are being shown up for what they are, very ordinary indeed.
Keep up the good work Alex.
To all Nulabour apologists, time to get off yer knees boys and girls.
Posted by: James, Glasgow on 4:49pm Sun 15 Jul 07
How sad it is to see what was once a good newspaper put out fawning puff pieces such as this. Maybe it's just churning out SNP press releases.
"Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150" Such as?
"For a political leader with a 24/7 schedule"
What? does he literally have a schedule booked 24 hours a day 7 days a week or do you just mean he's busy? What politician is not busy?
"There's no media fanfare associated with his inaugural trip to Brussels"
No appart from fawning journalists who want to puff it up into something more than it is.
How sad it is to see what was once a good newspaper put out fawning puff pieces such as this. Maybe it's just churning out SNP press releases.
"Salmond has done more in his first 50 days than his predecessors achieved in 150" Such as?
"For a political leader with a 24/7 schedule"
What? does he literally have a schedule booked 24 hours a day 7 days a week or do you just mean he's busy? What politician is not busy?
"There's no media fanfare associated with his inaugural trip to Brussels"
No appart from fawning journalists who want to puff it up into something more than it is.
Posted by: Willie, Glasgow on 5:02pm Sun 15 Jul 07
I bet the Labour Party press officer is already on the phone to the MD of Newsquest demanding disciplinary action over this excellent piece.
The response of Frank, Biffo and James simply brings a smile to my face :-D How much it must still hurt them. Where's yer Joke McDonald noo!?
I bet the Labour Party press officer is already on the phone to the MD of Newsquest demanding disciplinary action over this excellent piece.
The response of Frank, Biffo and James simply brings a smile to my face :-D How much it must still hurt them. Where's yer Joke McDonald noo!?
Posted by: Mr Guffaw, Sniggerland on 5:20pm Sun 15 Jul 07
JAMES, FRANK, BIFFO.
...can't type while covering mouth laughing.
GUFFAW.....GUFFAW...
...GUFFAW.
JAMES, FRANK, BIFFO.
...can't type while covering mouth laughing.
GUFFAW.....GUFFAW...
...GUFFAW.
Posted by: maxi, tees valley on 8:44pm Sun 15 Jul 07
Alex is gonna look pretty stupid if he doesn't get his independance vote,or worse scots vote to STAY in the union!
Alex is gonna look pretty stupid if he doesn't get his independance vote,or worse scots vote to STAY in the union!
Posted by: R MacLeod, London on 8:51pm Sun 15 Jul 07
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
Ian
I would take issue with the achieved more in 50 days than Nulabour achieved in 150!!!
Just what exactly did Nulabour achieve in 8 long years? very little if truth be told, the smoking ban apart, can anyone name another major achievement.
Alex Salmond is head and shoulders above any politician in Scotland at the moment, you only have to look at the opposition, Gazza Brown, wee Dougie Alexander, Lord Ha Ha, they are being shown up for what they are, very ordinary indeed.
Keep up the good work Alex.
To all Nulabour apologists, time to get off yer knees boys and girls. [/quote] John hate to steal even the smoking ban from Nu Labour but if truth be known it is virtually the same bill that Stewart MaxWell SNP intorduced into Holyrood and Labour rejected then stole the credit and good publicity.
It would seem the only worthwhile piece they ever did was also an SNP idea
poor old Biffo ,James and Frank not even that to lay claim to
John wrote:
Ian
I would take issue with the achieved more in 50 days than Nulabour achieved in 150!!!
Just what exactly did Nulabour achieve in 8 long years? very little if truth be told, the smoking ban apart, can anyone name another major achievement.
Alex Salmond is head and shoulders above any politician in Scotland at the moment, you only have to look at the opposition, Gazza Brown, wee Dougie Alexander, Lord Ha Ha, they are being shown up for what they are, very ordinary indeed.
Keep up the good work Alex.
To all Nulabour apologists, time to get off yer knees boys and girls.
John hate to steal even the smoking ban from Nu Labour but if truth be known it is virtually the same bill that Stewart MaxWell SNP intorduced into Holyrood and Labour rejected then stole the credit and good publicity.
It would seem the only worthwhile piece they ever did was also an SNP idea
poor old Biffo ,James and Frank not even that to lay claim to
Posted by: John, Leven on 8:58pm Sun 15 Jul 07
R Macleod
Thank you for putting me right on the smoking ban.
It is interesting to note that there has been no reply from any NUlabour people re any other major achievements in 8 long years of miss rule.
I guess even Nulabour realise there was nothing worthwhile for the people of Scotland in their (final) term in office.
R Macleod
Thank you for putting me right on the smoking ban.
It is interesting to note that there has been no reply from any NUlabour people re any other major achievements in 8 long years of miss rule.
I guess even Nulabour realise there was nothing worthwhile for the people of Scotland in their (final) term in office.
Posted by: JAD, West Lothian on 10:13pm Sun 15 Jul 07
To all of the nationalist correspondents there are plenty of Labour achievements of the last eight year; high employment levels, record investment in health resulting in improved survival rates for cancer, heart disease and strokes; record investment in schools with better attainment levels, more teachers and improved school buildings.
As Paul Weller once said "I could go on for hours and I probably will..but I'd sooner put some joy back in this town called malice."
Time will tell on the SNP in Government, and I certainly have serious worries about the damage they could do, but please don't try to imply that Britain or Scotland was a better place under the Tories - it is just not credible.
To all of the nationalist correspondents there are plenty of Labour achievements of the last eight year; high employment levels, record investment in health resulting in improved survival rates for cancer, heart disease and strokes; record investment in schools with better attainment levels, more teachers and improved school buildings.
As Paul Weller once said "I could go on for hours and I probably will..but I'd sooner put some joy back in this town called malice."
Time will tell on the SNP in Government, and I certainly have serious worries about the damage they could do, but please don't try to imply that Britain or Scotland was a better place under the Tories - it is just not credible.
Posted by: James, Glasgow on 10:24pm Sun 15 Jul 07
[quote][bold]Mr Guffaw[/bold] wrote:
JAMES, FRANK, BIFFO. ...can't type while covering mouth laughing. GUFFAW.....GUFFAW... ...GUFFAW.[/quote] When you can construct something coherent, get back to us. The point is that this is a fawning article puffing up a routine visit by Salmond to Brussels. if there had been any article by a journalist vaguely sympathetic to a Labour politician it would have been slated by the very people who are praisng this one by Macwhirter
i wonder which tasted better to Mr Macwhirter the wine and canapes or the bootpolish?
Mr Guffaw wrote:
JAMES, FRANK, BIFFO. ...can't type while covering mouth laughing. GUFFAW.....GUFFAW... ...GUFFAW.
When you can construct something coherent, get back to us. The point is that this is a fawning article puffing up a routine visit by Salmond to Brussels. if there had been any article by a journalist vaguely sympathetic to a Labour politician it would have been slated by the very people who are praisng this one by Macwhirter
i wonder which tasted better to Mr Macwhirter the wine and canapes or the bootpolish?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 10:35pm Sun 15 Jul 07
James thinks negativity the way forward:[quote]This is a fawning article puffing up a routine visit by Salmond to Brussels.[/quote] And your contribution to moving Scotland into the 21st century is what, exactly?
James thinks negativity the way forward:
This is a fawning article puffing up a routine visit by Salmond to Brussels.
And your contribution to moving Scotland into the 21st century is what, exactly?
Posted by: stonehaven on 9:02am Mon 16 Jul 07
Is Margaret Curran the best person that Labour can muster? If so they are doomed to eternal opposition.
Is Margaret Curran the best person that Labour can muster? If so they are doomed to eternal opposition.
Posted by: James, Glasgow on 2:09pm Mon 16 Jul 07
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
James thinks negativity the way forward:[quote]This is a fawning article puffing up a routine visit by Salmond to Brussels.[/quote] And your contribution to moving Scotland into the 21st century is what, exactly? [/quote] This is nonsense. Firstly it is not an expression of negativity to point out that a journalist from an SNP-sympathetic newspaper has written a fawning article, simply an expression of the obvious.
Secondly, Scotland is in the 21st Century. The problem is that Salmond and his SNP cohorts want to send Scotland back to the 13th century by separating it from the rest of the UK so we can all live in relative poverty,antagonistic to England and controlled by Eurocrats.
Los Angeles wrote:
James thinks negativity the way forward:This is a fawning article puffing up a routine visit by Salmond to Brussels.
And your contribution to moving Scotland into the 21st century is what, exactly?
This is nonsense. Firstly it is not an expression of negativity to point out that a journalist from an SNP-sympathetic newspaper has written a fawning article, simply an expression of the obvious.
Secondly, Scotland is in the 21st Century. The problem is that Salmond and his SNP cohorts want to send Scotland back to the 13th century by separating it from the rest of the UK so we can all live in relative poverty,antagonistic to England and controlled by Eurocrats.
Posted by: OscarMacApfel on 2:47pm Mon 16 Jul 07
James, perhaps you prefer hard hitting exposes such as this one below.
http://www.theherald
.co.uk/elections2007
/electionfocus/displ
ay.var.1345814.0.0.p
hp
James, perhaps you prefer hard hitting exposes such as this one below.
http://www.theherald
.co.uk/elections2007
/electionfocus/displ
ay.var.1345814.0.0.p
hp
Posted by: mairi macleod, broxburn on 3:42pm Mon 16 Jul 07
dont you just love it !!? the confidence in the posting's, especially (james) back to the 13th century indeed,are you RIP-VAN- WINKLE in disguise?, or just one of lifes lucky ones, theres plenty poverty today after 50yrs of labour,dont you read recent reports,
alex,has earned the pladits he is getting,
so guess where you can shove yer soor grapes.
dont you just love it !!? the confidence in the posting's, especially (james) back to the 13th century indeed,are you RIP-VAN- WINKLE in disguise?, or just one of lifes lucky ones, theres plenty poverty today after 50yrs of labour,dont you read recent reports,
alex,has earned the pladits he is getting,
so guess where you can shove yer soor grapes.
Posted by: Anne on 4:48pm Mon 16 Jul 07
I listened to Margaret Curran anide remarks on Alex Salmond on Radio Scotland's Sunday current affairs yesterday. I was reliefed to hear Iain MacWhirter saying positive things about Alex Salmond. Though what struck me more than her words, was the attitude behind them. That horrible 'yae canna do it' and the message for Scotland to stay within the limits of devolution. No aspiration whatsoever, no vision. Then it dawned on me, could the Scottish cringe factor be down to 50 years of Scottish Labour in power?
I listened to Margaret Curran anide remarks on Alex Salmond on Radio Scotland's Sunday current affairs yesterday. I was reliefed to hear Iain MacWhirter saying positive things about Alex Salmond. Though what struck me more than her words, was the attitude behind them. That horrible 'yae canna do it' and the message for Scotland to stay within the limits of devolution. No aspiration whatsoever, no vision. Then it dawned on me, could the Scottish cringe factor be down to 50 years of Scottish Labour in power?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 10:40pm Mon 16 Jul 07
James feels a monk's habit does not suit him: [quote]The problem is that Salmond and his SNP cohorts want to send Scotland back to the 13th century by separating it from the rest of the UK so we can all live in relative poverty, antagonistic to England and controlled by Eurocrats.[/quote]And which of those glaring crackpot falsehoods do you consider the worst?
James feels a monk's habit does not suit him:
The problem is that Salmond and his SNP cohorts want to send Scotland back to the 13th century by separating it from the rest of the UK so we can all live in relative poverty, antagonistic to England and controlled by Eurocrats.
And which of those glaring crackpot falsehoods do you consider the worst?