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Mcgeady’s coming of age
Youngster has grown into a genuine asset in Europe

PAUL HARTLEY is a paid-up member of the Aiden McGeady appreciation society. Not only did the Scotland midfielder spend the formative years of his own career operating as a winger, he was also among the opposition back when McGeady made his full debut, scoring in a 1-1 draw against Hearts at Tynecastle in April 2004. So when he duly became the Republic of Ireland internationalist's club team-mate back in January, Hartley was well aware that McGeady was a good player. He just didn't know he was this good.

"The player that has stuck out for me recently would have to be Aiden because he has been terrific in the last six weeks," Hartley said. "He has gone and won games on his own for us, and I think the Benfica match showed what an outstanding player he can be.

"I knew he was good but I think this season you are seeing the best of him, because he is not just getting forward, he is having to track back and defend as well," Hartley added.

"He has been producing that for the last few weeks, and hopefully he will be a big player for us again in midweek. He has not just got ability, he can also get you 60-70 yards up the park, and take everyone up there with him. He is an exceptional talent, and I think he can go to the top, and do whatever he wants. He is a very hard trainer, always working on different things - whether it is in the gym or his shooting or his crossing. He has got real consistency now."

Celtic meet Shakhtar Donetsk this Wednesday in a crucial Champions League match, almost exactly three years since beating the same side 1-0 in the same competition at Parkhead.

Yet, somewhat remarkably, McGeady is the only member of either the starting XI or the substitutes from that evening still present at the Parkhead club.

With Gordon Strachan paying tribute this week to the painstaking hours the 21-year-old does in the gym working on his physical condition, it is quite literally a case of survival of the fittest.

"They have all got fitness programs but he McGeady seems to do more than anyone else," said the Celtic manager. "The ones that I see in the gym are the ones that seem to be doing well. They don't take their ability for granted.

"They have all got ability to be at this level, but it is about enhancing that ability. You can do that by practising with the ball, and physically making themselves better as well. For a young footballer there is no excuse for not using what we have here at Lennoxtown."

"He is still a young man,"

Strachan added about the man who proved the match-winner against Benfica last month, "but he has worked hard at his game, and the better you become physically the more confident you become. You don't get tired, so you don't make mistakes. Take the mistakes away, and confidence flows. Sometimes he used to try too hard and get down on himself if something miraculous didn't come off. His game has got simpler and better."

The stakes could hardly be much higher. By the time the final whistle sounds, Celtic fans would be best advised to have prepared themselves for every eventuality from qualification for the last 16 to outright Champions League elimination. A single-goal Celtic win, for instance, would complete another commendable clean sweep of home Champions League matches, and see Celtic go into the final game with nine points already to their name. Yet, with Milan in the San Siro as their last-day opponents, such an outcome could still be regarded as insufficient.

Having gone down 2-0 in Donetsk on the opening day, it is not inconceivable that Strachan may be presented with the unenviable dilemma late on in the match of whether to risk even a winning position in an attempt to overturn their current head-to-head disadvantage held by their Ukrainian opponents. Ironically, his predecessor Martin O'Neill was criticised for being overly defensive back in that same 2004 match, against a Shakhtar side who by the end had only nine men.

Then again Strachan knows all about the perils of trying to second guess the outcomes of football matches.

"When I was at Coventry, we stayed up on goal difference once, when Steve Lomas of Man City was keeping the ball in at the corner flag thinking it was enough to get a draw," Strachan said. "Lomas was keeping the ball in the corner thinking a draw was enough, but they got it wrong and went down. So, the first thing is to score more goals than the opposition, then where it goes after that I don't have a clue."

In any case, attempting to atone for that demoralising defeat in Donetsk should be motivation enough. The Parkhead side were two down in just eight minutes in Ukraine but back on home turf where they have been beaten just once in 24 Champions League outings (a record bettered only by Barcelona) they will hope to subject their opponents to a similar whirlwind.

"Their high tempo in the last match caught us," Strachan admitted. "I don't think we were expecting that, but it encouraged them that we gave them the first goal. We were in shock, similar to England in midweek. Sometimes you are able to ride it and keep it at 1-0, but, just like England, we weren't able to, and it went to two before it settled down."

Hartley's usual midfield role provides an insurance policy, but he also sees the advantage in going on the offensive. "We need a fast start to make sure they know they are in for a real test," he said.

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Posted by: doyle, glasgow on 3:22am Sun 25 Nov 07
before the tournament i would take celtic for a win, now it looks like it has the hallmarks of a classic....4-3 celtic
Posted by: Carlisle Bhoy, Carlisle on 8:53am Sun 25 Nov 07
Mon the hoops! We can get through!
Posted by: Scot Land, My Land on 2:19pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Its fantastic that Aiden is turning into the great footballer that we all expected him to be, but it is a sad day for Scotland. We as a nation had taken in his grandparents who must have come to Scotland as there was no opportunity back home in Eire. No doubt we also paid his parents family allowance for all of his youth and we also paid for young Ayden’s schooling and how do we get repaid: by signing his loyalties to the Republic. What was wrong with Scotland ? You have a Scottish accent, a Scottish upbringing and yet due to your grandparents wishes you sigh for Ireland. If I had brought up grandchildren all my life in a country, where it be America, New Zealand, Japan etc, that is the nation my grandchildren would be signing for. What ever happened to assimilation ? Such a narrow mind and a sad day for Scottish football. We now have another youngster signing for Eire, James McCarthy and another loss for Scottish football. I find this attitude of turning your back on Scotland a sad indictment on our society, lets be honest I can guarantee you that if Aiden & James were watching Scotland v Eire, in their hearts they would be rooting for Scotland. Where are we going wrong, is down to the family putting undue pressures on the youngsters, is down to the SFA and our scouts not searching these guys out ?
Over the last few weeks, the pride that our country had felt due to the Euro qualifiers has been unsurpassed and to think if Aiden had been playing it may had made that we bit of difference regarding our qualifications. This is the proof on the pudding, we are a small nation and we need our home grown stars to play for us. I hope all the people responsible are proud of themselves as they are letting Scotland down.
Posted by: hugh, BELFAST on 2:40pm Sun 25 Nov 07
AIDEN played for and was nurtured by the FAI for his junior international carrer Scotland only showed intrest when he showed the star qualities he has. SBERATEDhowing loyalty to thoes who discovered his talent should be applauded not
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 2:51pm Sun 25 Nov 07
I don't think it's a sad day for Scotland at all, the last thing this Scotland team needs is a wee idiot who obviously still lives in the past, and regardless of the fact that he's 3rd generation Scots, him AND his parents born and bred, he was more interested in playing for his fantasy homeland...

I'm a Celtic fan, but he's typical of the type of Celtic fan who bring shame on the rest of us - the Ah'm no Scottish me, Ah'm Irish - brigade.
Good luck to him and his increasingly 2nd rate national side, but this is a sad day for him not us. This young Scotland team will go from strength to strength and he's made his choice.
Posted by: Tommy, East Kilbride on 2:58pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Scot-Land, My Land- "No doubt we also paid his parents family allowance for all of his youth and we also paid for young Ayden’s schooling".

He's probably paid that back already through tax on his footballer's wages.

The thing that marks him out is his desire to work hard and improve his game on the training field and in the gym. His counterparts down govan way should take note, instead of lounging around in Ayrshire pubs on their days off.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 3:09pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Just thinking about this again. It makes me angry every time I hear about this. There should be some law against countries stealing players before they're 21 or something.
Easy market for the Republic with wee goons like McGeady who'll turn to them through some supposed religious loyalty.

Is the boy McCarthy the one at Hamilton that the big teams are after? Jesus Christ, tell them to go and play for frickin Cork City or some other team in the Irish league if they're so in love with the place.
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 3:38pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Neil
you're never a celtic fan, talking about Celtic players like, we don't care what nationality, religion or colour they are.
Their international careers are a separate issue for them not us, if the bhoy was more comfortable in the Irish set up, then thats his choice.
As long as he doesn't pick up a bad injury playing internatioanl football, i couldn't care less if he played for the faroes.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 3:48pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Tam,
I assure you I'm a Celtic fan, but I'm also a Scotsman and a Scotland fan. It makes me want to puke that a wee goon like that who's Scottish born and bred would rather turn out for Ireland that his homeland.
This isnae a case of a Ray Houghton or someone like that who couldnae get a game for Scotland and turned to ROI mid career. This is a boy who before he's even made any first team appearances for his club has decided that he wants to play for Ireland.
We both know this is nothing to do with any "nurturing" by the FAI, and everything to do with an idiotic belief in Ireland as home that affects a lot of my fellow Celtic fans. I'm trying to choose my words carefully, as it makes me so angry and I don't want the comments deleted, but there's an F word that's often used to describe Celtic fans by moronic Rangers fans, in McGeady's case, I'd say the term fits quite well.
Posted by: TAM, GLASGOW on 4:14pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Neil
Don't what "goon" means but it seems a very derogatory term for a Celtic fan to use on the most exciting talent the club has brought through for years.
Certainly i don't know the boy and have no idea what his reasons were for choosing to play for Ireland.
I personally think that players only tolerate International footbal to progress their careers, thats why when they get older and their career has reached a certain level, tehy retire from it.
You'll get the occasional braveheart type like Colin Hnendry but in the main, most are only in it, to use it.
Thats only my opinion, I could be wrong as you well could be regarding young Aiden
What I will say, the boy seems to be a credit to his family, himself and the club with his attitude on and off the park.
Great in this day and age with the amount of bawheids in the game.
Good luck
Posted by: JungleJim, I am Your Son Beside the Clyde on 5:02pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Neil, a Celtic fan. aye right. The only person who brings shame on Celtic fans is you.
Posted by: Aiden McTurncoat on 9:18pm Sun 25 Nov 07
JungleJim wrote:
Neil, a Celtic fan. aye right. The only person who brings shame on Celtic fans is you.
And your fans running on the pitch (pick any of the umpteen games), your players singing IRA songs (Hartson & pearson), your chair of the supporters trust saying there is nothing wrong with singing about the IRA, planes diverted, and a support and homegrown players who have loyalties to other foreign countries, shall I go on.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 9:25pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Aye, doubt me all ye want, we're no all small minded bigots like you JungleJim. I'm Scottish, and it's a shame that people like him forget they are too.
Tam, you've never heard the term "goon"? Means an idiot, in the way I use it anyway. And he is an idiot, he can take his Ireland caps and shove them right up....anyway, yer right, I shouldnae care what international team players play for, but I'm a Scotland fan before I'm a Celtic fan, and when someone who may turn out to be a talent decides to choose the land of his grandparents over his own land, then it upsets me.

But yer dead wrong about international players. Most players are proud to play for their country and maybe he should be too, rather than playing for Sinn Fein or whatever it is he thinks he's playing for

Here's hoping he turns out to be the next Brian McGlaughlin eh?
Posted by: Carlisle Celt, Carlisle on 9:36pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Neil Switzerland an absolute numpty. We know who you are and you are no Tim.

By the way there are obviously no blue noses on this forum because we know they all support engurland, wear engurland tops, sing engurland songs gstq etc.

As for me I am a Scot and a Celt! And Neil you stay in Switzerland cause Scotland disnae want you!
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 9:53pm Sun 25 Nov 07
Go on Carlisle Celt, tell me why I'm a numpty then? Is it because I'm a Scotsman who finds it incredible that someone would choose to play for Ireland before Scotland, regardless of their roots?
Is it because I think idiots like McGeady are exactly the type of Celtic fan that give nutcase fantasists like "Aiden McTurncoat" above the excuse to tell us that Celtic fans are worse than horrifically bigoted buffoons like him?
Maybe it's because I'm a Celtic fan who doesn't buy into the small minded bullsh!t that the rest of us do? I'm Scottish, I'm Glaswegian, and I'm proud of both. If I was good enough to play football I'd happily wait my whole life for 1 Scotland cap than play for any other country.
But whether out of idiotic bigotry, romantic fantasy or pure opportunism (we were crap, they were less crap) he's chosen to play for a country that his grandparents once lived in.
I think we can say who the numpty is here...
Posted by: Hawkeyethenoo, Melbourne on 12:47am Mon 26 Nov 07
Neil, you are probably the biggest arse I've read on here and one ignorant pr*ck! My parents are Irish and I have a strong affinity towards them but I consider myself Scottish through and through as I was born and bred there. That said if I'd been given the God given talent that Aiden has and I'd been asked to play for Ireland before any interest had been shown by Scotland then i'd have jumped at the chance and that has nothing to do with religion or politics. Your reference to "playing for Sinn Fein" is disgusting and offensive - I just hope for your sake that one day you grow up!
Posted by: chedwardall, Glasgow on 2:13am Mon 26 Nov 07
If you're born in a country, you should play for that country. But all the bile merchants here are conveniently forgetting about all the English born players like Bruce Rioch who opted to play for Scotland rather than the land of their birth. I don't remember them being booed at club matches in England.But then England isnt a claustrophobic little country like this one.
Posted by: Fidelio, Glasgow on 6:39am Mon 26 Nov 07
Neil, you are an absolute moron. Ignorant, foul-mouthed and, going by your spelling and grammar, totally uneducated.

If you are going to speak so venomously about Aiden McGeady, try researching the background to his decision to play for Ireland rather than Scotland.

Since Aiden was a primary 1 schoolboy, he spent every day of his summer school holidays in Ireland, holidaying with his grandparents. It's not like he chose to play for Ireland but had never been there, like some people I could mention.

So he grew up spending a lot of his childhood in Ireland. When he signed for Celtic as a schoolboy, Celtic had a policy of not allowing their players to play for their school - because of the constant sectarian abuse and violence that was frequently meted out both on and off the park.

The Scottish Schools Football Association also had a rule which prevented anyone who did not play for their school, from playing for Scotland Schoolboys, understandably so.

Eventually he was asked to play for Ireland at youth level and, having spent so much of his childhood there, he saw no reason to turn them down.

Little did he know what an insular little backwater Scotland is, with anti-Irish and anti-Catholic bigots at every corner. Yes, people like you Neil. If you are a Celtic fan, I am the Queen. If you haven't got the bottle to come on here as the Rangers fan that you are, then why bother, you complete and utter coward.

Neil, I am a Celtic fan who also supports Scotland, but if Aiden McGeady has decided to play for Ireland, that is his prerogative, and for a knuckdragger like you to publicly hope he ends his career through injury just sums up what a vile bigot you really are.

Go crawl back under the stone from whence you came.
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 8:01am Mon 26 Nov 07
Neil
If you think players play for Scotland due to some loyalty to your wee bit hill and glen, william wallace or the village idiots in the tartan army, you are mistaken.
They play for themsleves because international football means recgnition, which leads to better contracts, sponsorship etc.
If you do get to a major tornament and perform well, it can leat to big transfers, ask Gascoigne, Platt and Ferdinand
Richard Gough and Andy Goram couldn't be classed as Scottish, but took the opportunity to play for them and prgress thier careers.
Eventually when international football could do NO more for them personally, they opted out, I have no problem with that, they played well when they turned up.
As for linking Aiden MCGeady to Sinn Fein, he actually plays for the Republic of Ireland, the 26 counties where Sinn Fein are no more than a minority party, with unwanted econmic policy and the baggage of a bunch of cowards who think they can bully anybody in a pub because they wore dark glasses and a beret, every Easter sunday.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 2:23pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Hahahahahaha, Jesus, what a lot of pious lecturing I'm getting here...let me tell you all again, I am a Celtic fan. Now just because I don't think that poor abused wee Aideny Waideny wants to play for the land he spent his summer holidays in is great, that makes me an ignorant, uneducated moron? Jesus Christ!

1. 3 of 4 of my grandparents were Irish, I couldnae give a crap about the place, because I wasn't brought up with any sentimental longing for a land before Cromwell force fed us potatoes or some crap like that (and before you again accuse me of being uneducated, ask your average Celtic supporting Oirishman, and that's about as close as they'll get to history).

2. I am neither igonrant nor uneducated, far from it in fact. What I am is free of the poisonous thoughts that make all you sadcases excuse him for choosing old Ireland over Scotland. And before you get on your high horses again, it's nothing to do with furthering his career, or because he loved his granny, or because he wasnae allowed to play football for the school team (I think you'll more likely find out that's for purely selfish reasons Celtic enforce that - all other clubs do it too, it's not as if they can all play for their school teams except the poor wee Celtic boys). No, it's because he's a small minded Celtic supporting buffoon who imagines that he's Irish, or "has an affinity with Ireland" as Hawkeyethenoo so lovingly puts it.

3. This Scotland team are going places with a team of mostly young boys who genuinely want to play for Scotland, not mercenaries like Neil Sullivan who wanted to add another zero onto their salary as they're now "international". Most players retire from international football in their early 30s to add another year or two onto their club careers, and are genuinely proud to play for the time they do.

4. At no point did I say I hoped he'd get injured, I was merely making a joke that when Brian McGlaughlin came through, everyone thought he was the next big thing, and now he plays for Milngavie Wanderers or some such. I was wishing the same ignominy on young Aideny Waideny, then he can frame his 5 Oirish caps next to the tricolour and the photo of himself shaking hands with Bertie Ahern and Brian Kerr above his fireplace in the cooncil flat in Springburn.
Posted by: RMD on 3:04pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Apparently Alan Hutton was stopped at Customs on his way to Barcelona and during a search officers discovered a wee oirish fella in his backpocket. So all you Celtc fans should be applauding Her Majesty's Customs on liberating young Aiden to play against Benfica.

So it was the FAI that "nurtured" Aiden and taught him his one trick.

Neil, Switzerland what a refreshing viewpoint!
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 4:03pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Neil are you COCO on betfair ? the rangers fan who pretends to support the hoops, pretty sad individual.
I much prefer the Johnny Adair tramps any day, good luck for the rest of the season.
Lets hope we can come back to this subject one day.

RMD did you get that one from Andy Cameron ?
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 4:36pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Tam, I'm no a betting man, so not me I'm afraid. I'm just someone who is incredibly peeved at McGeady, and who knows why he did it. I don't need to listen to any "romantic" or "career" reasons, we all know why he did it.

But you can believe all ye want about how a Celtic fan would never think this about one of our supposed own. A mate of mine, who's a far bigger Celtic fan than me, and who would agree with youse on everything else thinks the same as me on this one. So it's not just me. Ask people next time yer outside yer limited gene pool of friends, or step outside the Celtic pubs and clubs you no doubt all live in, there are plenty of Celtic fans like me. Just the same as there are plenty of Rangers fans who're disgusted with all the pish that is attached to their team.

For you lot it's obviously Celtic, right or wrong. For me it's not, and incomprehensible as it may be for some of you, some Celtic fans actually are just fans of a football team, and don't give a crap about Irish sentiments or Ireland, or anything else like that. Don't get me wrong, I'll sing the Fields of Athenry as heartily as the next man, but that's cos it's a great wee song, and not because I'm outraged at the injustice of the poor wee fella getting deported for stealing from the evil Brits!

McGeady is a fool, and I hope his national team never qualify for another tournament as long as he plays for them! And while I'm at it, I wouldnae be overly upset if Celtic shipped him off to Sheffield Wednesday or somewhere tomorrow either.
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 4:54pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Neil
3 points i don't follow any party line when it comes to what celtic fans should think, personally don't think the last captain covered himself in glory at times, I think his spell at Celtic changed his personality for the worst.
secondly you are being particularly arrogant making out you are some sort of mind reader regarding what Aiden Mcgeady thinks, you don't know him you've probably never met him.

Thirdly and i'm making no excuses for him, because he had every right to choose Ireland, under present rules, I don't bother with Scotland or roi and I'm Scottish.
Hes a young boy, he may have made the wrong decsion, Charlie Nicholas done it when he moved to Arsenal.
Andy Goram will tell yeh, the biggest mistake he made in his lfe was getting involved with that scum across the water and he was nearly 30 when he done it.
So worry about something you can influence and let the boy get on with his career, because he has a real chance of being one of Celtic's greatest, he has the ability, he just needs to keep working as hard, and stay clear of injuries.
Posted by: Aiden McTurncoat on 10:26pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Neil wrote:
Go on Carlisle Celt, tell me why I\'m a numpty then? Is it because I\'m a Scotsman who finds it incredible that someone would choose to play for Ireland before Scotland, regardless of their roots? Is it because I think idiots like McGeady are exactly the type of Celtic fan that give nutcase fantasists like \"Aiden McTurncoat\" above the excuse to tell us that Celtic fans are worse than horrifically bigoted buffoons like him? Maybe it\'s because I\'m a Celtic fan who doesn\'t buy into the small minded bullsh!t that the rest of us do? I\'m Scottish, I\'m Glaswegian, and I\'m proud of both. If I was good enough to play football I\'d happily wait my whole life for 1 Scotland cap than play for any other country. But whether out of idiotic bigotry, romantic fantasy or pure opportunism (we were crap, they were less crap) he\'s chosen to play for a country that his grandparents once lived in. I think we can say who the numpty is here...
Nothing fantasist, it is all fact, oh and your the only scottish team to get an international banning order as documented within the UK Home Office stats. Please show me the bigotry.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 10:29pm Mon 26 Nov 07
Tam,
That's just the thing, my hatred for him means that I don't want to see him do well. I'd rather he moved on so I could actually get on wi supporting my team than spit poisonous fury at a player that I shouldn't care about. But I can't.
Yer right that I am being arrogant, and he was perfectly within his rights, but you know as well as I do that he didnae choose Ireland because he could, he chose it for the same reason some of the fools above support Ireland against Scotland.
If his granny came from Botswana and he went there for his holidays every summer do you think he'd have gone there for his international football? I think not.

Anyhoo, I know I shouldnae get so bothered by it, but I do. And Charlie Nicholas, there's another one...don't get me started on him!
Posted by: Fidelio, Glasgow on 12:25am Tue 27 Nov 07
Neil, I can understand you being disappointed that McGeady chose Ireland over Scotland. As I said in my post, I am also disappointed, but that is as far as it goes.

You have admitted you actually HATE Aiden McGeady for his decision. You claim to be a Celtic fan, yet you actually HATE a young Celtic player for having chosen to play for Ireland before Scotland. Would you be so full of hate if it was Italy rather than Ireland, or indeed if hje had played for Northern Ireland? I don't think so. There is something very wrong with you. You are obviously a very sad and bitter individual who probably needs help.

But then again, I don't believe you are a Celtic fan. You are a Rangers fan on the make, and a moronic, uneducated one at that.

Go and lie under a tram and do us all a favour, or better still, get a boyfriend.
Posted by: RMD on 8:23am Tue 27 Nov 07
"because he has a real chance of being one of Celtic's greatest, he has the ability, he just needs to keep working as hard, and stay clear of injuries." Tam, McGeady is one-trick pony that is having a shade of a purple patch. A Celtc great????? that will be right and as I said before - Aidenhio must pray that Hutton disappears because whilst he's about he will remain ineffectual in OF encounters.

You are all kidding yourselves if you believe McGeady chose ROI over Scotland for anything but the reasons outlined by Swiss Neil. Anyhoo, McGeady is not good enough for the current Scotland team and has been berated for his performances for ROI and his coach questioned for his inclusion.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 11:42am Tue 27 Nov 07
Fidelio, that post made me laugh more than any of the others, you start of quite reasonable, then appear to be about to counsel me on my anger, then turn on me with homophobic insults. Brilliant. (Or should that be turn me on? You'll never know)

I already said if it was any other country he wouldn't have done it, and if it was any other country I'd be just as aggrieved, more so even, but it's not, and at the risk of repeating myself for the 55th time, we all know why he wants to play for Oireland.

Give him a couple of years and he'll be jinking past defenders in the old first division with Hamilton or Morton something anyway, but he'll always have Landsdowne Road to remember eh? That first kiss of the green shirt, the ability to cross himself without causing a diplomatic incident, the feeling that he's fighting it out against the evil Brits, doing his bit for those poor wee potatoes etc etc etc.

As I said before, this angers me more than it rationally should, and I would be quietly amused if his career went down the toilet and he ended up drinking buckie on street corners, at least then he can move to the country he spent his holidays as a boy, and so dearly loves.
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 12:00pm Tue 27 Nov 07
RMD
you are very wrong, there is loads to mcgeadys game, the wide creative role needs a special player to be succesful nowadays, you really need to have played it to realise how difficult is is. Thats why experienced guys like Paul Hartley and Tam Burns/WGS who played in a wide midfield area, marvel at this kid. Hartley especially, the games changed since the other two played out there, cannot believe the quality of the bhoy and his running power. Being the major creator for huge clubs like Celtic and Rangers is an onerous task (Ask Barry Ferguson it has taken its toll on him at times, another excellent player), but to do it by dribbling and driving at people is hugely difficult.
I know you're a rangers fan, i like Hutton, he reminds me a bit of Boydy when he drives forward when he played full back, perhaps not as good at defending the back post, but Mcgeady has the engine and the skill.

neil your posts are getting more worse by the minute i thought the gargle was dear in Sweden
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 12:09pm Tue 27 Nov 07
It is dear mate, shockingly expensive. just lucky I'm in Switzerland then eh?

Hutton is a fine player, but we've nae need to worry there for long, he'll be off to bigger and better things soon enough, and then McGeady can get back to demon runs up and down the wings for the reserves.
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 1:18pm Tue 27 Nov 07
sorry i was getting mixed up whether you were Swedish or Swiss, all europeans to me anyway, makes no difference.
Good luck
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 4:52pm Tue 27 Nov 07
Another perfect example of the use of international football used to further somebodys career, Mcleish humilitated by minty moonbeams at Ibrox, no job offers till the SFA gave him a lifeline, a couple of decent results and off to the megabucks premiership, lol, the great pride in being manager of Scotland, complete dung. I wonder if he'll get his team talks off Sean Connery for the rest of the season.
Posted by: Neil, Switzerland on 8:46am Wed 28 Nov 07
I'm no Swiss, I'm Scottish, I just happen to work in Switzerland...
Funny thing is the feckin England players keep getting their bosses sacked, and we keep getting ours better paying jobs.
Not that wee Aideny Waideny has to worry about that, he's got Venables coming over to mess things up for them.!
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 1:36pm Wed 28 Nov 07
Marvelous move for big Mcleish and glad to see Roy the bhoy taken along.
They tools that support the republic of ireland deserve venables,( hope he gets good compo when he fecks things up), you walk into a pub in Dublin, its full of grown men, sitting with english premiership jerseys on.
They love to see the english national team lose yet are obsessed with their national league,tools the lot of them, I hope the hoops get a result tonight because i'll be in dublin saturday and I want to wind the yokes up big time.
will you get the game in switzerland ?
Posted by: tam, glasgow on 10:38pm Wed 28 Nov 07
we are knocked out and THEN aiden pulls it out the fire
HAIL, HAIL, to everybody heading for MILAN
Posted by: Gerry, Dumbarton on 11:56am Thu 6 Dec 07
Here, again, we see reference to Aiden McGeady's choice of National team as being based on "idiotic fantasy" or "religious bigotry". There is a real ignorance displayed here on the complexities of identity formation.

The character of an individual's identity is not determined exclusively by his place of birth! It is conceivable to have two individuals living next door to one another, sharing the same geographical space, but living in an entirely different economic, cultural, or religious spaces. Your identity will be informed by a a whole number of influences.

In Aiden's case it was his exposure to Irish music, language, culture, history and possibly religion which seems to have had the most informative influence on his identity formation. Nobody should be so dismissive (as Neil in Switzerland ihas been) as to pronounce from on high that Aiden's character is in any way less valid than their own, far less to deride him as an idotic fantasist or a deluded bigot!

The pronouncemennt and assumption that the geographical shared experience should be priviliged above all other shared experiences is arrogant and crude; Aiden is an Irishman who was born in Scotland.
Posted by: idc, not ireland on 11:01pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Jesus will the Scottish press please just shut up about McGeady instead of glorifying the over-rated little ****.
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